Two movies that clearly illustrates what's wrong with America (and the world)

[mogster]

OUTFOXED : Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428
1hr 17 min
Year: 2004

The problem lies in the media owner concentration, and subsequently with the owner's political view being the only allowed view.
Have you seen this movie? If not, you should.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outfoxed

The Corporation

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3203253804055041031
3hr
Year: 2003

Describing our problem at a deeper level, the 2003 movie 'The Corporation' takes on the overall development of the entity called the corporation, and how it has attained a status as 'super human'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation

Fringe lunacy sensationalism? No, you know this isn't. You see this happening every day, every hour, every minute.

Sunday movies for your pleasure, but most of all; for your information ;-)

[Tuesday Afternoon]

1. Thanks for the info and the links.

Must see, indeed.

[Catsbrains]

2. Seen them both and have since given copies to everyone I know!

[cullen2382]

3. Here's another one....

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

[mogster]

17. Thanks, I watched that some time ago

Interesting material ;-)

[blondeatlast]

4. "Enron: the Smartest Guys in the Room" is another one I'd recommend.

Great production and it clearly demonstrates how undbridled greed rots everything it touches--even those indirectly involved.



http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/enron_the_smartest_guys_in_the_room/

[mogster]

10. Thanks!

I hadn't heard of that movie before ;-)

[blondeatlast]

19. The book is good too but the movie is even better. nt

[mogster]

20. I did a google search

http://www.enronmovie.com/

Dead cool site ;-)
Found the wiki as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron:_The_Smartest_Guys_in_the_Room

And ..oops, the film itself:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=972394030048527048

[truedelphi]

22. We saw the wonderful movie about the

"smartest guys in the room" and we were impressed.

The smarmiest guys in the room would have been a good title as well.

[blondeatlast]

24. The title comes from Ken Lay's positioning his and I believe Skilling's

office intentionally inside the boiler room but away from the worker bees--his quote went along the lines of "This room holds the smartest people in America and we're (he and the Enron bigwigs) are the "smartest guys in the room."

OTOH, he could have easily said smarmiest and been accurate.

It's a great movie, isn't it?

[truedelphi]

25. The one sad and bad thing about these documentaries

Is that after watching one of them, you don't care to deal with the M$M ever again.

Dorothy Faddiman's Stealing America - vote by vote was another of our favorites.
You can get it at: www.stealingamerica.org

[porphyrian]

5. I'll second that recommendation. -n/t

[malaise]

6. Bookmarked

K & R

[Echo In Light]

7. The Corporation is especially informative!

Offering a look back into industrialization, how the corporation structure came about, given legal rights as "individuals," and the astounding harm, negligence and malfeasance that has come about. It's a lengthy film for the average person to get through, but well worth it if you can keep the sit com or game switched off long enough...

Also recommended:

Orwell Rolls In His Grave
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4467655342219448521&q=orwell+rolls&total=54&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5631882395226827730&q=manufacturing+consent&total=147&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[mogster]

11. Thanks!

Great links! I haven't seen these, I think. I'll be sure to check them out.

[Sydnie]

8. Thanks for the links!

Off to the Greatest Page for more exposure.

[Swagman]

9. Corporation is a must watch...

[mogster]

15. I agree

Where's the inbuilt system fault in capitalism? It's the 'survival of the fittest'-thinking, which is fascism refined. Fine if you can control it, but do we have control?

[julialnyc]

12. Inherit the Wind

Sadly very relevant today

[Botany]

13. Holy God .....

I just watched Out Foxed.

[mogster]

16. I'm watching the Corp. now

Have seen it before, but needed a brush up.

Watching the Corp. and Outfoxed like we do now is such a good illustration of the state of things: we're watching films in poor quality over the internet describing important society problems in the crosshairs where the media meets the corporation, that should have been aired at every network if society was every thing it claims to be; democratic, open and just. We have to settle for poorer quality and less impact of the ideas and information the films carry, although it should be visible to anybody by now that something ain't right, and that the issues at hand needs extra focus.

[Cleita]

14. I just watched "OutFoxed" and it was terrific. I turned the big

five off three years ago other than "Countdown With Keith Olberman". I stopped buying the LA Times when it got sold and get all my news now from the internet. I will watch "The Corporation" when I get a chance. Thanks for putting these links up. I wish there was a way to get people to watch these nationwide.

[mogster]

18. Strange we only have Olbermann, no?

One good journo standing up against the tide. Ah, well, it's not that black maybe. Many local media and single journo's are still working to get the truth across. And there's the new media, the internet 'level 2' media, and the blogs.
But the major network media bias is so visible it's strange, it's ridiculous that old democratic values--proven by the post war period--have to fight uphill, while the rather extremist verison is now the mainstream.

Look at this quote:

"Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed."
From the book They thought they were free, describing Nazi Germany in the 1930's.

When everyone is transformed, no one is transformed.

[Cleita]

21. I do listen the local AAR radio station while I go about doing my chores, but this is time

that I used to tune into CNN and CNBC before they got down on their knees. I always watched Dan Rather and never watched FOX News nor ABC, but I don't watch CBS anymore since Dan is gone and have replaced it with BBC news, which at least has broader international coverage than our networks and cable news. You'd think they would do some marketing research to find out exactly how many watchers like me that they have lost since the coronation of our present King George and the total corporate sell out of the news in the MSN.

[mogster]

23. And BBC is under pressure too

I read the other day that more than thousand journo's will be laid off soon. It's not the way we want it to be.

[Lisa]

26. "Why We Fight" is great, too ...

I besieged the local library, offering free copies of "Outfoxed", until they agreed to carry it in their video section. (They had "The Corporation" already ...)

Even though I ended up having to donate a bundle of other DVDs, including some Disney titles they'd been asking for, I figure it was worth it -- more people got to see the film in the end (especially students, shut-ins, and low income patrons who might not have had a chance to get it from the video store).