If Obama, and he is the only one who can do it...

[Didereaux]

If Obama, and he is the only one who can do it, does not pull 'race' out of this campaign...and quickly he is unfit to serve as president. Just or not, fair or not, the race issue must NOT become a public issue. If Obama kills that slime now, he will gain more voters than he can count...and not a few who would never have thought of voting for a black man. How can that be. Because people are tired of it, they know it is wrong, they know it exists, but they also know that it cannot be defeated by division and strife. It is nopt a matter that it needs exposure, it is over-exposed. Every time things start getting straightened out at the neighborhood level some one with an agenda, black and white, creates a national issue that filters right down to neighbors and they are forced to take sides and then it is right back to square one.

So if Obama shows that on the national level he can shut off the issue and those who benefit by it constantly being raised, he will have shown an awful lot of moderates that by god he will keep the crap under control and the neighborhoods can once again go back to building and mending fences.

I don't expect some to understand what I have written here, but those that do will agree I think. Obama can make the first meaningful dent

[thunder rising]

1. Suppose you could supply a link to any evidence

[Didereaux]

4. have you ever in your life understood that 'life' is not on some link?

this is my experience, my observation of what goes on in my small world, up and down the street, at Wal-Mart, the Mall the corner convenience store. You want proof, you want a link? I'll do better, I will give you the best advice you will receive ever....take the fucking computer, throw it in the river and go talk to your neighbors, say hi and ask how the person next to you at the check out is doing. Get to know the waitress in a real coffee shop.

[madokie]

16. You are so right

And that very thing you say to do is why I come here and say I see a change in peoples attitude towards the bush/cheney cabal and why I keep saying justice will be done on this one. Yes this merry cabal of criminals are going down and its going to be people like us who will make it happen because we will not take NO for an answer when it comes to this criminal cabal facing justice.
Peace and have a great Sunday

[glowing]

2. You are right about that.. and it happens with many issues..

like the Christian and the Muslim getting along fine.. then shit stirred at a national level and a perfectly fine working neighborhood becomes a divisive place to live... they do this alot.. its called dividing and conquering and works quite well in keeping the United States confused and divisive.

[Dogmudgeon]

3. We all need to cool down. Now.

A small number of the most trivial gaffes and missteps are being spun into a firestorm of intra-party outrage. This is not particularly helpful to the process we claim that we want.

I wonder what Barak and Hillary are making of all this.

--p!

[dailykoff]

5. Yeah, let's blame Obama for getting swiftboated six ways to Sunday.

This is repulsive.

[Didereaux]

6. ...and my friend are the real enemy of the democratic Party, and Obama and edwards and Clinton.

[cloudythescribbler]

7. I agree with DailyKoff here nt

[niceypoo]

9. Hmmmm, a little criticism of Obama is "swiftboating"

Yet the 24/7 hyper-critical hate Hillary fest is perfectly acceptable? A tad bit thin skinned (and hypocritical), are we?

[Didereaux]

11. No, no you misunderstand, I know Obama is NOT the originator, but HE can stop them...

If Obama comes out strongly, and publicly condemns the 'racist' crap and even alludes to the cause perhaps being from the other party, and not other xDemocrats, and that he is refusing to play their poisonous game: Then Obama WINS, and he wins big, in the public eye. That is what people are looking for, a candidate that can stand up to the people who for years, and years now have been using all these divisive terms to keep the general populace segregated from one another.

Obama is the only one in a position to do this...will he?


and I apologize if it may have seemed that this was some sort of a veiled attack on Obama, it is NOT!

[dailykoff]

12. No, he's not the originator. Neither was Kerry.

Denouncing it will accomplish zilch. Swiftboating is an exceedingly unpleasant business and I just hope Obama can keep doing whatever he did in Iowa.

[Didereaux]

13. last time o obtuse one I AM NOT BLAMING OBAMA! he is the CURE not cause

[dailykoff]

14. Baloney.

"If Obama, and he is the only one who can do it, does not pull 'race' out of this campaign...and quickly he is unfit to serve as president."

Obviously, he's in no position to "pull" race out the campaign, since he's the one being targeted with racial slurs, so your entire premise is nothing but a smear.

[Didereaux]

18. that displays a complete lack of understanding of the OP and issue.

[niceypoo]

8. He has been using Sharpton as his attack dog

Obama is running a crybaby campaign based on attacking all criticism as racist. Crybabies dont make good presidents.

[yungCaucasoid]

10. This is wrong. Sharpton refuses to endorse Obama.

And, actually, Sharpton has not endorsed anyone. Although I think it will be Obama eventually. Right now, Sharpton is too upset that Obama won't make Racism as a big of an issue as he and Jesse did, when they ran.

But that 'ole Racism-Rottweiler should be happy now, that Obama has likely committed a Black Man's political suicide, by allowing Jesse Jackson Jr. to start flashing The Race Card all over America for him.

It's over now, for Obama, no doubt.

[H2O Man]

15. Clown

[blondeatlast]

20. Your username is a joke, right? Wow. Jaw-droppingly inane post. nt

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[Blarch]

19. What a stupid post

Are you saying that if Obama can't stop Clinton from bringing up race then he is unfit to be prez ?

Jeeeesh.

[Didereaux]

26. No, re-read. He can make so anyone who does pays a heavy price with voters! see?

[undeterred]

21. People change their attitude when they have to.

All my life I said I was not racist, but I was a white person living amongst white people. When I moved to Chicago and lived and worked in a racially mixed environment, my racism was challenged- it was not hatred I felt, but fear. So it was something I had to work at every day for a long time. If Obama becomes president, I think a lot of people who do not think they are racist will find that they have an inner struggle - and will find out that they do have some racism and that they will be able to finally deal with it. And that will be a good thing, and it will move the country forward on the issue of race. It will not be because of a particular thing he says but just by being who he is.

Having a brilliant black man follow a bunch of stupid white men as president (except for Bill Clinton) will end a lot of stereotypes forever.

[Didereaux]

22. But the problem is the here and now, not next year. One thing at a time.

[blondeatlast]

23. Your concern is noted. We got this in '04 over the gay marriage issue too.

:eyes:

[salin]

24. I really do not understand your post

it is written in a convoluted way, and seems to place blame on those who ever raise the issue of race as a factor of an injustice. When a few years ago a study found that red-lining by race still exists in realestate and financing - the problem was, according to your post as I understand it - not the real phenomenon, but those who wrote or spoke about the injustice (and illegal practice)?

[Didereaux]

25. I am blaming politicions and media who bring up race fro attention and ratings on trivial issues...

just so that they may gain ratings, or money or simply attention. This then causes uproar that immediately distracts from, or trivializes REAL issues, and worse it often results in advances made already but not firmed to crumble and those involved to start all over.

No, I realize that what I am saying is not 'bumper sticker' material, but it is a very real problem. Nor do I expect all to understand it as I do, but I do expect the issue to be discussed and thought about. I am perfectly willing, to try and restate if I can to someone who does not understand my 'convoluted' wording...I will try and to put it in that persons language, which of course is convoluted to the next. heheh