Have Been Speaking About John Edwards To People Today...

[RestoreGore]

And believe it or not, the general consensus of those I spoke to (about 10 people this morning) was this: most (about seven) did not like Obama much because they do not "trust his rhetoric" and stated if it were between Obama and Clinton (who at least four out of the ten didn't like either) that they would vote for Clinton. I would say the ages of the people I spoke to ranged between thirties to sixties, and it was equal between race and gender. And when I mentioned John Edwards and his stances on poverty, environment, and corporate control of our govt., they all stated that they liked him and agreed with his stance regarding the corporate stranglehold on this country (though a couple stated they thought he was "negative" for doing that to which I corrected and stated it as not being negativity but truth, and that other candidates including Clinton have accepted corporate money which some did not know) but that "he would never be allowed to get in." So in response to that I told them that he would get in if WE fight for him to get in.

I think I made an impression on a few, but I do believe many in this country just think they have no choice but to vote for Clinton or Obama because they are the ones they see most in the media, and they trust the media. I think if we can somehow give people hope that we can indeed change the status quo by speaking up that we can make an inroads on more people listening to John Edwards's message. I know I'm going to keep talking to people about him and his policies regarding poverty and especially climate change which I notice people on the whole are responding to, because it is that important to get out and talk to people now in lieu of the crap being spewed by a corporate media that cares not for logic, reason or facts.

48 states to go, and this isn't over by a longhsot.

[KoKo]

1. Trust in the Media is a big problem we have. Creatures of Habit...don't dig deeper.

And what else are they exposed to but what has now become blatent propaganda in most media sources folks see or read. People Magazine...Enfotainment... Fox News and MSNBC.

[RestoreGore]

4. Absolutely

So that in essence is the step that must come before the corporate stranglehold on this country can be broken... people must be made aware of the truth of it in the first place and how it is affecting their lives to the detriment of their future and that of their children. And I did speak to one person who told me polls mean nothing, to which I replied right on and recommended they read Al Gore's The Assault On Reason which explains in detail this entire process and how we can change it.

[iamjoy]

2. Age Is A Factor

I think younger people are more likely to go for Obama. They aren't as jaded by politics, so they really believe all his talk about hope and a different way of doing things.

I think older people are more likely to go for Clinton. They see Obama and think "where's the beef?" (they actually know the origins of that phrase and remember when it first surfaced).

Most people don't understand or pay attention to the stuff about corporate Democrats, etc.

So, all you Obama supporters (and it does seem to be more Obama supporters than Clinton supporters) thinking Edwards should drop out so your candidate will get that support, don't be too sure.

[RestoreGore]

5. Regarding young people I agree with you

It is easier to get votes from people who don't know the real score yet and did not live in times which educated many of us... but that to me is such a deception, which is why my teenage son is aware of it because I told him about it. He looks at more than just rally speeches and big smiles, and actually told me without my prodding him after listening to his speech after Iowa that John Edwards is someone he would vote for if he could because he seem to care most about the poor. And he also told me that Al Gore is way up on that list too. And I sure am proud of him for that.

[midnight]

3. Great discussion.....But it is telling that Obama and Clinton get

most media coverage.

[RestoreGore]

11. yes, but it shouldn't be the deciding factor...

or voting for someone because they are "cute", "good looking," or someone you want to have a beer with, or has nice teeth, which one woman actually told me about Obama... she said he had nice teeth. LOL. This is what we are up against. A vastly uninformed public and a media that thrives on keeping it that way. Of course, that isn't to take anything away from those who have read their records and still support them for whatever reason, but on the whole I think many in this country have just resigned themselves to doing what the corporate run media conglomerates tell them to do, and that is a very dangerous habit for the American people to have.

[hfojvt]

6. that's interesting and scary

that so many seem to accept, and are resigned to the fact, that the game is rigged. Powerful forces would keep John Edwards from winning, they seem to state, no matter how many people vote for him. Or to they just think the powerful forces are the RWNM and the M$M which would work tirelessly to stop Edwards from winning the general election.

It's like they've never heard of a self-fullfilling prophecy. They think "I would like to vote for Kucinich, but he will never win" or "I would like to vote for Edwards, but he will never win" and ignore that the more people who do that, the more it becomes self-fulfilling. Might as well give up, since we can't win anyway. You can't fight city hall, not even with your vote.

[RestoreGore]

8. That is exactly the prevailing attitude I found

And it is scary because many simply do not see how their involvement in changing it would change it.

[cascadiance]

7. I think I made a dent on a coworker who's been a Republican but fairly independent the other day...

He was a little uncertain when I first talked to him where he wanted to put his vote, but I think I persuaded him a lot on certain talking points. Then another coworker came to me and talked about this first person was talking to him in heavy support of Edwards and that he felt (rightly) that I'd talked to him earlier!

So persuasion IS doable out there! We all need to do it where we can! The MSM is not going to help us with this battle!

[RestoreGore]

9. That's right. We have to be the media

it's the only way.

[Babel_17]

10. Edwards is continually catching on

I found out today that Lee Varley, wife of legendary Science Fiction author John Varley, is apparently sympathetic to JE.

http://www.varley.net/Pages/Lee/Lee's%20Soapbox.htm

I'm going by the current top item in her soapbox wherein she links to a favorable Huffington Post article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-smiley/shut-up-larry_b_81091.html

John Varley is quite progressive, I recommend his site.

http://www.varley.net/

[RestoreGore]

12. Thanks for the links. n/t

[BanzaiBonnie]

13. It's not over...

until "we the people" sing.

Make it so!

[RufusTFirefly]

14. The media's liberal. Clinton's a liberal. Or so they've been told

There are a lot of reasonable, intelligent people who think they're getting their news from a liberal media, and many of them think they're supporting a liberal candidate.

It can be a tall order sometimes, dispelling two myths that are so firmly ingrained and so regularly repeated.

As a result, advocating for a candidate like Edwards is threatening not only to corporations but to a great number of good people whose world view is based on two false assumptions. Few people enjoy having their very foundation shaken.