Illegal Conspiracy to Do TORTURE & Confirmation That Crime Went Up To President

[kpete]

Tuesday, December 11, 2007
CIA Agent Reveals Highly Classified Interrogation Techniques and, Inexplicably, the Sky Does Not Fall


Marty Lederman


John Kiriakou confirmed the waterboarding of Abu Zubaydah, and the fact that the White House authorized such crimes, even though such information is "highly classified." Kiriakou said that he "knew the rules" of classification but did not seek CIA approval to make his disclosures. There was fury at the CIA this morning because of this breach.

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Just like I have no faith in the truth of any information that comes from torturing a person, I have no faith in the truth of anything that torturers and apologists for torture say. The former is speaking to avoid further torture and the latter is speaking to defend the torture they have done. The presence of torture makes them both unreliable to me. Torture is an abomination that is against the law.

John Kiriakou, if he is to be believed, has said that the legal authorities were worked out at the highest levels of government with the President and Justice giving the CIA interrogators the authority to do the torture. In this Wonderland, torture is legalized by the stroke of pen through a Presidential authorization backed with a compliant legal opinion. Of course, no law was changed or treaty amended to legalize the torture. Only persons of power decided to write new words and persons below - noticeably other than John Kiriakou - were willing to go along. That is illegal conspiracy to do torture my fellow Americans and we have confirmation that this crime went up to the President.

more at:
http://balkin.blogspot.com/2007/12/cia-agent-reveals-highly-classified.html

[LakeSamish706]

1. And it begs the question once again, Who is going to do anything...

about it? We have a Congress that seems to shy away from doing there jobs, for whatever reason... but meanwhile vote themselves a $4000.00 pay increase... Not holding my breath for any type of resolution to this.

[hobbit709]

2. If there wasn't complicity at the highest levels

there was no way it could have gone on at the levels it did. Send every one of them to The Hague. Though my personal feelings are more in line with my 76 year old mother(a life long pacifist) who says "Dust off the guillotine"

[Old Codger]

3. Cowards or?

Too busy worrying about themselves to give a rip about their constitutional duties to the people and country they are supposed to represent. Probably bot, this country needs a recall provision of some sort.

[sellitman]

4. Nancy likes torturing too.

Nothing to see here....move on

:sarcasm:

[sam sarrha]

5. this goes really deep....>Link>>

if you scroll down there are photos uf this guys work
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3943.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1146979,00.html

[alfredo]

6. Looks like a great blog. Thanks for the link.

[enough]

7. Another chilling point from the article:

snip>

What is more, this {our torture techniques} is information that is revealed to the enemy as soon as it is implemented. Thus, it can't possibly be legitimately classified, because those upon whom we have inflicted these techniques know about them and can describe their treatment to anyone they wish. The premise behind the classification, therefore, must be an assumption that none of these detainees will ever be permitted to speak to anyone in the outside world ever again -- that without any process at all, they all have been permanently relegated to a black hole without any human contact. Otherwise, they are of course free to describe the techniques to their hearts' content. Classification simply makes no sense in this context, unless we've already decided that these detainees will never see another human face.

snip>

[L. Coyote]

8. So, any way to prosecute in Texas? Were crimes committed at Crawford?

Might be a death penalty case in Texas.

[AzDar]

9. K & R...

:kick:

[L. Coyote]

10. Conclusion: "Let us now find all the conspirators in this torture and bring them to justice."

[Solly Mack]

11. K&R