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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:34 AM
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The welfare-wingnut king (Jonah Goldberg) has decided that fascism is a phenomenon of the left.
Jonah Goldberg's 'Liberal Facism' Brings Historical Revisionism to Comical New Heights

By Brad Reed, AlterNet. Posted January 11, 2008.

The welfare-wingnut king has decided that fascism is a phenomenon of the left.




About five years ago, I imagine that Ann Coulter, Dinesh D'Souza and Jonah Goldberg went out to a local bar and subsequently got into a drunken feud over who among them could write the most comically stupid right-wing attack book.

"I'm-a gonna write two books, one callin' libruls TRAITORS and the other one callin' 'em GODLESS," cackled a sauced Coulter while sipping down her gin and tonic.

"Pfffffft, anyone can call 'em godless traitors," said D'Souza. "I'm-a write a book that blames libruls fer 9/11"

Not one to be outdone, Goldberg pounded his Amstel Light on the table and rose to his feet.

"Tha's nothin'!" he shouted. "I'm-a write a book that calls all libruls FASCISTS!"

Coulter and D'Souza burst into laughter.

"Tha's shameless e'ev fer you!" said Coulter. "Yer own magazine used ta make a habit of praising Franco!"

"I can too write a book about librul fascism!" said an indignant Goldberg as he trudged off to the men's room. "I'll show you! I'll show you all!" And that, in my mind, is how Liberal Fascism was born.

For the uninitiated, Liberal Fascism is a new book by National Review editor Jonah Goldberg that contends that Hitler and Mussolini were committed left-wingers, and that today's liberals are fascism's natural intellectual heirs. While this may sound like yet another Coulteresque quickie aimed at prying some money out of Dittohead Nation, Goldberg insists that it is actually a Very Serious Work that "isn't like any Ann Coulter book" because it presents an argument that "has never been made in such detail or with such care. Goldberg also goes to great lengths from the start of the book to say that he's not really saying liberals are fascists, but hey, here are 400 pages of similarities between liberals and fascists, and if you start associating the two of them by the end of the book, then that's not his fault.

But despite Goldberg's protestations and caveats, "Liberal Fascism" is indeed a remarkably silly work that's jam-packed with the same sloppy logic and dodgy research that we've come to expect from today's conservative pundit class. On page 2, for instance, Goldberg admits that he doesn't really know how to define fascism and that "not even the professionals have figured out what exactly fascism is." But as anyone who's followed Goldberg's career can tell you, lacking knowledge on any given subject in no way impedes him from writing over 400 pages on it. Indeed, not providing a concrete definition of fascism is essential to his case, since it allows him to define fascism however he pleases. Goldberg puts this conceit to good use throughout the book, as everyone from the French revolutionaries to Teddy Roosevelt-era Progressives to the New Dealers to communists to the '60s New Left to Hillary Clinton is linked with fascism at one point or another. By the end of the book, Goldberg comes off as a lonely, belligerent drunk who shouts obscenities at people leaving his local 7-11. .....(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/story/72960/



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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:35 AM
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1. Someone posted a link to the Amazon readers comments - a hoot!
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:58 AM
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6. All the one-star reviews have been removed. nt
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:18 AM
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9. Wow! Obvious much? What a loss of good wit!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:40 AM
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2. Yet more pathological projection from rightists
That is, impute to others that which you are most guilty of, if even on an unconscious level. Rightists fear their inner other and so set about damning others for being that which they themselves actually encompass.

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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:52 AM
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3. But the Nazis were "National Socialists"
So that means they were communists. Right? :sarcasm:
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:59 AM
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15. I love it when they say this
So I can ask if they think "The People's Republic of China" is "Republican"

Gets 'em every time.
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:56 AM
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4. Fascisim is security before freedom
It also needs a scapegoat. The arabic people were not good enough. If a republican is elected get ready for the illegal alien round-up. When the feds show up to to send whole families to detention camps before being deported that will be Fascism. It will be the end of America as we know it.

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Rock_Garden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:57 AM
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5. Saw this guy on Tucker last night, totally by accident.
They were condescending about Bill Clinton, such as: "Well, he's a LOT of THINGS, isn't he, but he's no racist". He said that he took some of his ideas from George Orwell. Sheesh.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:02 AM
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8. It's quite simple: rightist are taking the charges their critics correctly apply to them...
And spinning it. In a way it's sort of humorous: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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Rock_Garden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:19 AM
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10. True. It's his all American right to spin off Orwell, I guess.
But that's one of the stranger spins I've ever heard.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:23 AM
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13. Not really. Facts don't matter to these types, they operate on emotions, which is why they accuse...
The left, or what passes for it here, of doing just that. They impute to others what they themselves do. Listen to a Bushite talking about terrorist and dictators and you can apply it all to their own intentions/actions/policies.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:20 AM
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11. In all fairness, Orwell was writing with the Soviet Union in mind....
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 10:20 AM by robbedvoter
so, that reference is less absurd that his historical ones.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:25 AM
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14. But his prophetic point was that govt would be able to control via manipulation of perception
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:01 AM
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7. Luckily, few people likely to take time to read Goldberg would buy into this and
few people likely to buy into this would ever read Goldberg.

The risk is that some people walking into Borders may see the title while on their way to the back to pick up a book for their grand kids and think it could be something other than an oxymoron.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:22 AM
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12. Like with this "Sun" newspaper "NY Post for intellectuals" - no one buys it!
And it's only a newspaper, not a book...One messed up marketing ploy...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:04 AM
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16. Another conservative mushbrain proves Orwell knew what he was talking about.
"War is Peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."

Beside that, what can "Liberalism is Fascism" amount to?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:23 PM
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17. Negative reviews are being removed. Yet we're the fascists?
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 02:23 PM by ck4829
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:38 PM
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18. Jonah, son of Lucianne...need I say more?
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