Okay, so I've given up on America and want to relocate...

[Pacifist Patriot]

But I'm looking at the other countries on our planet and having a hard time deciding where I want to go. I'm thinking a Utopia on another planet might suffice. Gosh darnit, I don't have the technology or the material resources to find a suitable environment on another planet or in another galaxy. What's a girl to do?

[Sarah Ibarruri]

1. What would you like to have in your newly adopted country? Decide that first. nt

[RuleOfNah]

12. Truth, justice, and the American way?

Right now this is my favorite option.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2594158

[Sarah Ibarruri]

14. Well I guess that's one option! nt

[BlueJazz]

2. New Zealand

[Rosemary2205]

3. China

that's where all the money is going now.

[Faygo Kid]

4. O Canada

Right next door, and stylish.

[supernova]

8. I'd love Canada but

for the winters....


although, with global warming, things might be improving in that dept. :think:

Second choice would be UK or France. I could pick up French toute de suite.

[Benhurst]

11. Yeah, just wait a few years and you'll be growing pineapples while

we roast down here.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

15. People start their cars by remote so they're toasty warm by the time they get into them :) nt

[sam sarrha]

37. not.. when the Helaine Thermalcline stops, Canada will soon be under 5 miles of ice again, and they

just discovered the reason the last ice age ended is that an asteroid hit the eastern side of the ice cap in Canada, that broke up the ice and initiated a quick melt.. if we can go green fast enough, the damage may be turned around in 400 to 600 years, if we wait a while to change, it may take 2000 to 4000 years, if we do nothing the climate may "tip" with a methane turn and we will have a situation like Venus with a temp of 200* raining sulphuric acid

[Pacifist Patriot]

18. Too damned cold.

Once they annex the Turks and Caicos we'll talk. What is taking them so long anyway?

[ladjf]

5. I'm afraid that we are all in the same boat. In the end, the greatest

damage done by the Bush administration is that they have made millions of people sick mentally. In a sense, they have committed "political rape". Our psychiatric responses to their crimes are similar to those of rape victims.

Even under the best of future circumstances, it will take 100 years or more for people to regain their former state of mental well being.

The greatest therapy would be for Bush and his henchmen to be tried, convicted and punished for their war crimes, treason and damaging the mental welfare of the entire Country. Should that happen, and I don't predict that it will, millions would start recovering rapidly. We could start believing in our system again.

Think about how wonderful it would be to be able to respect and trust the President, the Supreme Court, Congress, the FBI, the CIA and the Justice Department.

[Pacifist Patriot]

20. I've thought about that, and have been wondering if...

the conditions for mental illness don't precede the Bush administration and that is a major part of the problem.

[ladjf]

25. That's a very astute observation. I do believe that the origins

of the "illness" could have been traceable back much further. I only focused on the Bush administration because of the magnitude of their crimes.

Historically speaking, it is well known that Bush's grandfather was a Nazi collaborator. It is all historical fact that many Nazi propagandist were brought out of Germany after WWII by the Intelligence department to assist with certain initiatives have to do with the cold war. A number of those former Nazis were brought into the Republican Party by Nixon to assist with writing political papers.

The CIA for years has boasted that they had the "media in their pockets".

So, in answer to your good question, I think that those who were interested in taking over the U.S. government using well placed propaganda in the media had their main start after WWII, culminating into what we presently have which is a media that is mostly the propaganda arm of the Republican administration. On top of that they own the Supreme Court, Congress, Senate, Justice Department, FBI, CIA, and the majority of the right wing Christians.

America is under the control of a very small minority of individuals. The rest of us either know or at least sense the truth about this and feel mostly helpless to do anything about it.

I apologize for all of the items I've left out. But, I don't like long posts.

[Pacifist Patriot]

29. Not a fan of long posts either, so you're preaching to the choir.

Which I consider a good thing by the way.

I have a big ole tin foil hat on my head so there is little to be posted that would throw me.

[hfojvt]

6. the ultimate country, is, of course

das Reich der Zwei.

[Pacifist Patriot]

19. Are you sure it isn't....

das Reich der Drei? oops, nevermind.
:evilgrin:

[hfojvt]

34. in astrophysics,

three body systems tend to be unstable unless one body is very small.

[cynatnite]

7. If I were moving, I'd pick either New Zealand or France n/t

[orleans]

9. come on--we already did this; went through with this. n/t

[madeline_con]

10. Don't be such a pacifist. Fight for your country!

Don't take this the wrong way, o.k?

[BlackVelvet04]

13. wherever it's legal to smoke all the pot

you want????

[Pacifist Patriot]

17. That might work.

[LostinVA]

16. I have dual citizenship--I'm a EU (Italian) citizen, too

Haruka and I have already talked about moving to Ireland one day.

Aren't you jealous?

[HeraldSquare212]

21. Man, I am

My wife is Canadian and we keep talking of moving there. I think every American should have a country they can run to.

[Pacifist Patriot]

28. Hell yeah!

Didn't know that about you. This OP was a tongue in cheek post, but hubby is off to England yet again. (He's there one week out of every month.)

He made the mistake of telling me we might have a chance to live in GB for two-three months 2008 summer/fall.

I'm a fighter. I'd really prefer to kick American butt rather than cut and run. But the temptation. Oh....

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. Costa Rica! BEAUTIFUL country. Here's a GREAT web site for those wishing to live elsewhere. Have fun

this is an AWESOME site! Pick your country and get all the info you need.

http://www.escapeartist.com/

http://www.escapeartist.com/immigration/immigration.htm

[zalinda]

24. Thanks, I'm going to look into it

I don't see a bright future if Edwards isn't elected. I feel that if either Clinton or Obama is nominated we will have another repub in the White House. Too many people think that this election will be a walk in the park for dems, and that's not the case. There are too many negatives for Clinton and Obama, and too many of the repubs sound rational. While many here think that the repubs sound insane or dumb, the average American voter will vote for them. Remember they only pay attention to a small part of the election process if any at all. And Huckabee was really good on Colbert, a few more repubs like that and people will forget that there is any connection with Bush and these people.

zalinda

[earth mom]

23. I'd go to Europe.

I'd travel around, see what area I liked the most and then figure out my game plan.

Good luck, I TOTALLY envy you. :hi:

[tuckessee]

26. You're always welcome in Kentucky if you get tired of America. n/t

[Pacifist Patriot]

31. Oddly enough, I've been to every state surrounding KY, but I've never...

stepped foot in Kentucky itself. There is something wrong about that.

[YvonneCa]

27. Giving up is not...

...permitted. :) "It's our only home." to quote a great American.:patriot:

[BlackVelvet04]

30. I would go to Mexico. n/t

[The Straight Story]

32. Question is, will let you in as easy as you can get in here?

:)

[momster]

33. No Place Safe

No place is without flaw or trouble so long as people live there. Stay and make here better.

That being said, I'd love to go live in Britain for a couple of months just for fun. Maybe one day.

[Dorian Gray]

35. Antarctica.

There will be nobody to annoy you down there. Plus some really long days!

[uppityperson]

36. People have been moving all over for a long long time.

My ancestors did. Most people's ancestors did at some point also probably. It is difficult figuring out what to do, weighing all the goods, bads, uglies. Good luck and I know.

[mnhtnbb]

38. Depends upon your age. We've chosen Panama for our retirement

Best benefits program for retirees. Booming economy. Beautiful country and less expensive than Costa Rica.
www.panamainfo.com

If you're younger and working, New Zealand is great.

[burythehatchet]

39. find peace in your heart

that's the only place it exists