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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:40 PM
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If Kerry Ran For POTUS in 2008, Would Edwards Have Dropped Out?
If not, then all this whining about Kerry's endorsement of Obama is a bunch of bull.

Kerry can endorse whoever he wants, he owes nothing to nobody, and I can't blame him for staying away from the Edwards train wreck.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:44 PM
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1. How is Edward's campaign a train wreck?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:46 PM
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4. He is likely to not win a single primary.
Maybe NC.

I'd call that a train wreck.
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:24 PM
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11. as if that will make any Edwards supporter abandon him
you should change your rhetoric towards other candidates. you may need them to win an election & they aren't likely to forget what you said. i know i won't.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:14 PM
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13. We are a relatively small internet community.
Things we say here don't make waves through the national election scene.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:44 PM
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2. Kerry always makes a lot of sense.
Not that I think Edwards is a train wreck. Obama would simply be better for the U.S.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:45 PM
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3. It doesn't bother me, I was just surprised.
Do you really think Edwards is a train wreck though?
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:49 PM
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5. You're addressing the more than 50% of DUers who are for Edwards.
Are you going to address the Kucinich "trainwreck" too?

Have fun.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:21 PM
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10. There is rust collecting on the Kucinich trainwreck.
Maybe its not even really a trainwreck in the classic sense, in that it was never intended to go anywhere.

I don't know if I believe that Edwards support is that high here.

And even if it is, I'm not going to tone down my analysis of the race to avoid offending those people who don't want to realistically look at the state of the Edwards campaign.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:49 PM
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6. I Do Blame Kerry
if his reason for not endorsing Edwards is he thinks the campaign is a "train wreck."

It is stunning political cowardice if he truly thinks Edwards would be better for the country but is endorsing Obama because he thinks Obama has a better chance of winning.

It is incredibly petty if he is endorsing Obama because he is mad at Edwards over 2004.

But, if Kerry is endorsing Obama because he thinks Obama is the best candidate, well, that's fine. It doesn't change my opinion of Kerry one bit.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:56 PM
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7. Edwards promised Kerry he would not run in 2008 if Kerry picked him as running mate
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 12:57 PM by MethuenProgressive
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1626498-2,00.html
Edwards had told Kerry he was going to share a story with him that he'd never told anyone else—that after his son Wade had been killed, he climbed onto the slab at the funeral home, laid there and hugged his body, and promised that he'd do all he could to make life better for people, to live up to Wade's ideals of service. Kerry was stunned, not moved, because, as he told me later, Edwards had recounted the same exact story to him, almost in the exact same words, a year or two before—and with the same preface, that he'd never shared the memory with anyone else. Kerry said he found it chilling, and he decided he couldn't pick Edwards unless he met with him again. When they did, Kerry tried to get a better personal feel for his potential number two; as rivals for national office since 2000, shortly after Edwards had entered the Senate, the two men hadn't spent a lot of time together. Kerry also wanted a specific reassurance. He asked Edwards for a commitment that if he was chosen and the ticket lost, Edwards wouldn't run against him in 2008. Edwards agreed "absolutely," as Kerry recalled him saying.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:44 PM
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12. Blah blah blah. I think that story is straight bullshit
Kerry's people trying to spin spin spin because so many people preferred Edwards.
I personally would never have gotten as involved with the K/E campaign as I did
had Edwards not been involved.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:48 PM
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14. If so many people preferred Edwards, he would have been the nominee.
Where's the spin coming from now?
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:00 PM
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8. Edwards is no train wreck, are you kidding? This was more of a
statement to Clinton than anyone else. Kerry is just buying into Obama being the other frontrunner. This race is a three-way, we are not going to have the typical outcome. Edwards has a huge following and you will see more and more and realize those who seek to minimize him, are the true train wrecks. Wake up! The whole take is constantly changing, even in MSM, that ought to tell you something. And if Bloomberg enters it will be a whole new ballgame, yet again.

There are no givens.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:12 PM
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9. It is incredibly stupid to jump into some else's race. All it makes
you is enemies.
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