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digitalbuddha Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:25 PM
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Why the Edwards support?
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:27 PM by digitalbuddha
Other than him being more electable than a woman or a black man, why is there so much support for him here? Please educate me.

Edit: Also, other than the insanity factor, wouldn't Paul be our best choice after Kucinich seeing that our biggest problem is the war (human life is the most important thing, ending them is really bad) and he would end it as opposed to everyone else? (how was that for good grammar?)
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:26 PM
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1. Because he 'sounds' willing to challenge corporate power
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:29 PM by NYCALIZ
as opposed to either Clinton or Obama who want to placate corporate power. And it seems that a lot of the ills in our society are due to undue influence of corporate power on our government policies.

Eisenhower talked about the Military Industrial Complex. But its a much broader problem than just the MIC. MIC might be the cheerleaders behind war without end and guns versus butter. But other corporate powers influenced reduction in regulatory oversight feeding into the current mortgage crisis as well as the retrenching of the bankruptcy act which will further destroy Americans on the edge.


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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:33 PM
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16. Ike would've talked about mediaCRATS, pharmaCRATS and financioCRATS.
He would have said how much the oligarciocrats hated him,...just as those PRO-DEMOCRACY PRESIDENTS who followed him warned against these tyrants.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:40 PM
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30. Ike wasn't the first to warn about it
We were warned about the corrupting influence by Washington and Lincoln before Ike spoke opening about it. But I think that Ike did it on national television where the prior Presidents did it discreetly

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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:42 PM
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34. Ike WAS the Military-Industrial-Complex
So it was nice of him to warn about it as he left after 8 years of serving it...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:26 PM
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2. Wow. Slick. nt
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:27 PM
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3. go vist his site at:
http://www.johedwards.com and check out what he proposes. And also check out the videos he has there. He's going to fight for the forgotten middle class.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:30 PM
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11. Fixed link
http://www.johnedwards.com

Your link takes you to a picture of a hamburger. :shrug:
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:27 PM
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4. You didn't see race or gender as a reason here.
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:34 PM by IMModerate
Edwards is the least likely of the top candidates to follow a corporate agenda. There are other reasons, but that sums it up for me.

To answer your edit: No! Ron Paul sucks on most issues outside of the Iraq War.
Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2618335

--IMM
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:32 PM
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15. Bingo. I can't have Gore, Kucinich is un-nominatable, the next best guy is Edwards. (NT)
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:33 PM by Tesha
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:28 PM
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5. Why not? Please educate me.
If you haven't bothered to read his PUBLISHED platform or listened to him speak,...I do not consider you in a position to ask WHY support him.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:29 PM
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8. *LOL* I just read your edit,...
:rofl:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:29 PM
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6. I can't turn him into a woman or a black man...
...ooops, I channeled Bill for a second there...
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:29 PM
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7. It certainly isn't because he's "more electable than a woman or a black man"
That's a pretty ugly thing to say, actually, and if you are that unfamiliar with Edwards' positions on the issues at this point of the process, I would advise you to do your own research.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:29 PM
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9. Because disloyal, greedy corporations need to be kicked in the gonads,
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:29 PM by Heaven and Earth
not wined and dined.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:29 PM
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10. because he's the only candidate who talks about poverty
and the issues related to poverty. Everything else is all middle class all the time.
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digitalbuddha Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:31 PM
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12. Does his voting record reflect this?
From what I understand his words and his votes are often at odds.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:42 PM
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32. No, his voting record does NOT reflect his words
Nor do his words today reflect his campaign of 2004.

For example, he:


voted for NCLB

voted for trade in China

voted for the Patriot Act

ADA voting record - 60%

voted for Homeland Security

voted for Yucca mtn

voted for *'s war resolution and co-sponsored the damn thing

voted for bankruptcy bill

voted to exempt fuel refiners from liability

voted against regulation of drinking water

did not bother to vote on an Iraq investigation

In May, U.S. Sen. John Edwards (D-NC) told the San
Francisco Chronicle he has no objection to the Justice
Department's arresting patients.

http://www.talkleft.com/archives/003612.html

And he was a DLcer and Bilderberger
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:32 PM
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13. Basically...
...I think it's because I'm an innately evil person. I may be a sexist, racist, mental deficient, too. That's still being worked out rhetorically.

Thanks for asking. :)
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:32 PM
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14. Ron Paul?
Surely you jest? The man's a complete lunatic!

:eyes:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:33 PM
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17. For me, his health care reform plan
Its not single payer, but its a good one and will get us to single payer quicker than the others.

Anyone willing to go out on a limb for real health care reform can do well on the other issues, IMHO.

He's also been outside the Beltway for a while and has a more objective POV.

and most of all, he's someone who can stand up to the sh*tstorm any Dem president is going to face; he will be able to clean up the politicized mess of the Executive branch, Pentagon, FBI and CIA. Its going to be a really difficult, dangerous job.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:34 PM
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18. Because he doesn't accept money from PACs, corporate lobbyists, or lobbyists for foreign governments
And none of those will be admitted to his White House. In addition, even though trial lawyers have donated to his campaign, he stated yesterday on George Stephanopolis' show that lobbyists for trail lawyers won't have access to him either. Not being attached to corporate money frees him to act in the public interest, in a way that Clinton and Obama can't really act, because of their ties to corporate money.
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:34 PM
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19. Watch the news. Notice how the Iowa second place finisher is being ignored
and ask yourself "Why?"

He's my candidate and the more the media ignores him, the more I realize I have chosen the right candidate for change.


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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:35 PM
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20. There is a bottomless pit somewhere, full of these clowns. nt
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:38 PM
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27. Who kicked the anthill?
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:43 PM
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35. tee hee. nt
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:36 PM
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21. Because he has identified who the bad guys really are, and wants to curb their power. n/t
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:37 PM
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22. "Our biggest problem is the war"
Um, no. It is one of a litany of problems that need to be addressed, and Ron Paul's ideas about trimming the government back to 3 people, dropping the IRS and letting Big Business run rampant without checks and balances (Enron) ain't the answer.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:37 PM
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23. other than the insanity?
:eyes:

I'm proud to support John Edwards, who understands the need for the government to help workers get a fair shake against big corporate power. I'm certainly not going to vote for a lunatic like Paul who wants to get rid of OSHA (and social security and public education and a whole host of other things that protect the lives and health of people).

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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:37 PM
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24. He is more anti-corportation than the others...
...who will probably be less progressive in office. His wife is terrific, too.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:37 PM
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25. Welcome to DU!
:hi:



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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:38 PM
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26. The man is saying all those things EVERYONE ELSE IS AFRAID TO SAY!
The man is saying all those things EVERYONE ELSE IS AFRAID TO SAY! Go listen to him.

Got it now?
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:38 PM
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28. First off I do not think he is more electable because he is a white man
That is pure B.S.! I think, as a woman, the right woman would be fully electable. I think a black man is electable in the United States.
I find that kind of statement offensive and ignorant. My first election I ever voted in was for Jesse Jackson (seemed like a good idea at the time) so personally, I thought a black man was electable then.

Now I do believe JRE is more electable because he is standing up for the people. He is actually getting to the root of our problem here in the U.S. and that is one thing and one thing only ( at least this is how I see it ) and that is GREEDY CORPORATIONS! They cannot continue to run our elections, our politicians, run our MSM, our wars, continue to go overseas or across the border. You have to get to the root of the problem in order to solve it. Plain and simple. Until this is done, nothing will really change.....just bandaids.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:39 PM
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29. Edwards is a populist progressive and always has been.
Paul is a conservative nut job who agrees with progressives on the war, but on nothing else.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:41 PM
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31. Hello flamebaiter.
Ron Paul? New to the Internets are you?

I don't think you are.

Goodbye.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:42 PM
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33. Yes, I agree Paul would be our best choice.
Keep going with that, I'm liking the way it sounds. Tell me more...
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:44 PM
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36. Ron Paul doesn't embrace the theory of evolution...
...doesn't think global warming is a federal issue, and is against Roe v Wade.

I certainly wouldn't vote for him.
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