What, exactly, is this 35 years of experience in change Hillary claims to have?

[Mortos]

She has been a U.S. Senator for 6 years and was the wife of a president for 8 (Is that really resume'able experience)?

She says she is the candidate of change, but on every big issue put forth by Bush, she has backed him on it and still refuses to admit to making any mistakes.

I will support Hillary if she is the nominee, but I like John Edwards and Obama much better. I know they have their faults, as do all human beings (especially the political kind) but they both just resonate better with me.

I just want as much honesty as a candidate can give and John Edwards seems to be giving that... Hillary's protestations that she is the candidate of change and has scads of experience don't ring true to me.

[muntrv]

1. She thinks she's Joseph Biden? He's been a senator for 35 years.

[bluestateguy]

2. Pushing paper at the Rose Law Firm and the Children's Defense Fund

And by the way, I've never been able to figure out what the Children's Defense Fund does other than push paper.

[papau]

5. LOL - a lawyer at CDF does less than a section 8 housing lawyer? :-) below is link

http://www.childrensdefense.org/site/PageServer

[journalist3072]

3. I'm so sick of this disingenuous bullshit.

Go here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2606963&mesg_id=2606963

[Donnachaidh]

4. the only disingenous bullshit is her claim to have worked for the public for 35 years

Your list is just spin. Pure-D spin.

[Name removed]

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[Mortos]

14. You will win alot of people with your courteous defense of your candidate

"Bullshit" and "fuck off" work wonders in convincing the unconvinced. You should work for her campaign.

Anyway, your post in defense of Hillary reads like a padded resume and it still doesn't cover 35 years. Lighten up or risk
turning off people from your candidate by your own coarse behavior.

[Binka]

65. Rock On Brother I Toast You With Some Fine Napa Etude Cabernet Tonight!

:applause: :yourock: :loveya::applause: :yourock: :loveya::applause: :yourock: :loveya::applause: :yourock: :loveya:

[cherokeeprogressive]

16. So her "experience" goes back to the days IMMEDIATELY following her graduation from college?

Come now. Really?

[Mortos]

20. It is a false claim...it is empty bragging

She does not have 35 years of experience in changing government anymore than I do. She does have more than me, but not 35 years.

It is simple...don't exaggerate your bonifides. It makes you look desparate or untruthful.

[cherokeeprogressive]

24. Personally, I'll vote for her if I HAVE to, but I'd rather someone else get the nomination...n/t

[Emit]

38. Does it include her Young Republican experience?

:rofl:

[Sparkly]

58. No, but her bio includes ages 18 to 20

in addition to her activism as a student, and later. You should read it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_clinton

[Emit]

85. I see Wiki includes it

"She served as president of the Wellesley Young Republicans organization during her freshman year."

Hillary is quite accomplished, I know. And I respect that. It's not her experience that concerns me, however.

[Sparkly]

90. Her freshmean year of college concerns you. I see.

All the rest of that bio doesn't count because of being a Republican at age 18?!

Unbelievable.

[Emit]

94. It bothers me none.

Her party affiliation from her college days is hardly what I'm concerned about.

[Emit]

35. Did you just tell that DUer to fuck off?

My, oh, my. Chill.

[havocmom]

55. Not surprised the poster did just that

Am sorta surprised the mods haven't removed it. But will be more surprised if they don't remove this ;)

[Cha]

62. Typical hillary surrogate..

desperately slinging mud.

[papau]

12. the list is below - what part is not at least as much "public service" as a Section 8 lawyer?

over 35 years:

- Working on children's issues as a member of the Children's Defense Fund

- Reforming education in Arkansas

- Holding the first White House Conference on Breast Cancer

- Listening to ill veterans, and working to get Gulf War Syndrome recognized as a very real and serious disease

- Promoting democracy by staring down the Chinese in their own backyard and saying "Women's rights are human rights, and human rights are women's rights, once and for all."

- Empowering people to take control of their destiny by going to different parts of the world and championing issues like "microcredit," which allows people to receive microcredit loans, which many use to start their own businesses

- Being a champion for the first-responders to Ground Zero, and being one of the first people to recognize the health issues they would face from the toxic air they breathed, and working tirelessly on their behalf

- Forcing the Pentagon to reverse course and helping sponsor legislation which tells the Pentagon no way will we allow you get try to get back the signing bonuses of injured troops

- Demanding a closed-door session with the Pentagon so that you can learn what, if anything, they are doing to prepare for withdrawal from Iraq

- Preventing George W. Bush from privatizing social security

[Raine]

22. Those things are good but

most of them are since she became Senator or go back to Whitehouse days, they don't seem to go back 35 years. It just seems like she is strectching it and is going to get caught eventually by the reTHUGs is she makes it that far.

[Sparkly]

37. BIO -- Reading is GOOD!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

[Cha]

64. Yeah, reading is good..

but hillary is not and I know all I need to know about her as my senator for the last 5 crucial years.

[Sparkly]

66. Fine -- you know all you want to know.

The discussion was about her experience the past 35 years. I thought people were looking for an answer. Otherwise, why are you in the thread?

[Cha]

67. It's really none

of your business. I don't care how much experience hillary clinton has had..she could have 60 years of experience and she still blew it the last five years in the senate.

[Sparkly]

69. Well congratulations.

Please don't respond to my posts if you don't want a reply. Thanks.

[cherokeeprogressive]

26. Of all your bullet points, which can be pointed to as having happened 35 YEARS AGO? n/t

[Sparkly]

47. Let's see, that was 1973....

She finished undergrad in 1969. That part is interesting too -- shows the development of her political thinking at a young age, and her early activism as a student. Here are the next few years of her life -- more than most people do in a whole life.

Law school

Rodham then entered Yale Law School, where she served on the Board of Editors of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action.<30> During her second year, she worked at the Yale Child Study Center,<31> learning about new research on early childhood brain development and working as a research assistant on the seminal work, Beyond the Best Interests of the Child (1973).<32><33> She also took on cases of child abuse at Yale-New Haven Hospital,<32> and volunteered at New Haven Legal Services to provide free advice for the poor.<31> In the summer of 1970, she was awarded a grant to work at Marian Wright Edelman's Washington Research Project, where she was assigned to Senator Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migratory Labor, researching migrant workers' problems in housing, sanitation, health and education;<34><35> Edelman would become a significant mentor to her.<35>

In the late spring of 1971, she began dating Bill Clinton, who was also a law student at Yale. That summer, she interned on child custody cases<36> at the Oakland, California, law firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein,<37><38> which was well-known for its support of constitutional rights, civil liberties, and radical causes;<38> two of its four partners were current or former communist party members.<38><39><40> Clinton canceled his summer plans to live with her in an apartment in Berkeley, California,<41> later writing, "I told her I'd have the rest of my life for my work and my ambition, but I loved her and I wanted to see if it could work out for us."<41> The romance did develop, and the couple continued living together in New Haven when they returned to law school.<39> The following summer, Rodham and Clinton campaigned in Texas for unsuccessful 1972 Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern.<42><43> She received a Juris Doctor degree from Yale in 1973,<8> having spent an extra year there in order to be with Clinton.<44> Clinton first proposed marriage to her following graduation, but she declined at the time.<44> She began a year of post-graduate study on children and medicine at the Yale Child Study Center.<45> Her first scholarly paper, "Children Under the Law", was published in the Harvard Educational Review in late 1973<46> and became frequently cited in the field.

Marriage and family, law career and First Lady of Arkansas

A key decision

During her post-graduate study, Rodham served as staff attorney for Edelman's newly founded Children's Defense Fundin Cambridge, Massachusetts,<47> and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children.<48> During 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.<49><50> Under the guidance of Chief Counsel John Doar and senior member Bernard Nussbaum,<32> Rodham helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.<50> The committee's work culminated in the resignation of President Richard Nixon in August 1974.<50>

Edit: That's just the start, to show you 1973. There's much more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

[cherokeeprogressive]

50. I'll give you that. But I don't see anything there that qualifies her to be President. n/t

[Sparkly]

51. Read the rest.

It's pretty amazing.

[hedda_foil]

60. These are all inflated First Lady projects.

- Reforming education in Arkansas

I'm sure she played a role, but education is a traditional First Lady project. Arkansas, if I recall properly, was either dead last or 49th in education when Bill was inaugurated. She wasn't the big education honcho in the government, she was a rainmaking partner in a major corporate law firm (and on boards of corp clients like Wal-Mart) because her hubby was the state's governor.

- Holding the first White House Conference on Breast Cancer - Hello? Betty Ford kicked off Breast Cancer as a first lady project. The first WH conference on it is great, but it's a first lady thing.

- Listening to ill veterans, and working to get Gulf War Syndrome recognized as a very real and serious disease. More hype of First Lady role.

- Promoting democracy by staring down the Chinese in their own backyard and saying "Women's rights are human rights, and human rights are women's rights, once and for all." Hello? She spoke out for women, which was great for a first lady to do. She wasn't negotiating women's rights with the Chinese government, for heaven's sake.

travelling around and promoting microcredit loans for women in 3rd world countries is great but it' another inflated description of a first lady's role.

She's been a Senator with a high profile for 6 years and even this hyped up BS can't find a bill she authored that passed the Senate -- or even an important bill she authored that she fought for but couldn't get passed.

And Hil -- you personally were not what stopped Bush from privatizing social security.

[NoBorders]

6. To me it's not the 'change' question

but more the experience question. I don't see that she really as that much more experience than the other candidates. Some, but not that much more.

[Rosemary2205]

30. Well hells bells

I should be Secretary of the Treasury or Chairman of the Federal Reserve!! I've been handling money for over 50 years!!

Hillary is an accomplished woman - there's no need to pad the resume.

[cynatnite]

8. Google is your friend...

not hard to find all the work she's done over the years since she was in college.

[sniffa]

9. she had several jobs

including arcade employee, laundromat attendant, and bank teller.

[juajen]

13. You're disgusting. Her web site has all of the info you need to

check out her life from birth to now. Feel free.

[sniffa]

15. sorry, i left out that she also was a toll booth collector

my bad. :hi:

[Sparkly]

41. Have you read her bio?

:shrug:

[sniffa]

46. of course.

and It Takes A Village. where do you think i got her resume from? :shrug:

[Sparkly]

49. .

:eyes: Pathetic.

[Binka]

72. Don't Forget Her Work With The Village People

She taught them to dance and worked in wardrobe. FABULOUS! Who can forget the Indian headdress and the construction worker? OUTSTANDING! All this while raising ONE CHILD! AMAZING! She really needs her own Action Figure Doll.

[sniffa]

89. ...

:rofl:

oh wait.. i mean: pathetic. :eyes:

[LostInAnomie]

10. It seems to mostly be the typical stuff first ladies get appointed to do.

Add up her years as first lady of Arkansas, first lady or the USA, and her time as Senator, and all the time in between.

[Lucinda]

11. Wiki is your friend too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

[Sparkly]

28. Thanks, I hadn't seen that.

Very, very impressive.

[Ineedchange]

17. Would you elect Laura Bush as president? She did give us the National Book Festival every year in DC

Would you elect Barbara Bush as president? Hell No

Would you elect Betty Ford? No

Would You elect Eleanor Roosevelt? Yes based on what she did after she was 1st lady.

Would you elect Nancy Reagan? Maybe - Many of us believe she was running the white house his last 2 years anyway. They say the dragon lady was rough.

What did Hillary give us while she was 1st lady?

[cynatnite]

19. First lady?

:rofl:

Most ridiculous post of the night. Thanks for the laughs.

[LostInAnomie]

27. Yeah, afterall, Pickles did head up *'s anti-gang taskforce.

It's those kind of grandiose (yet meaningless) appointments that first ladies get that make me pretty skeptical of Hillary's "35 years of change" claims.

[Ineedchange]

29. DId she do more than the required tasks that come with being 1st lady?

We need to see what she did that differ from her peers in the presidential documents. Since they won't release the documents she won't get my vote. I don't see the experience.

[Sparkly]

32. An excerpt

In addition to chairing the Task Force on National Health Care Reform...

Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage.<125> She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare.<126> She successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.<45> The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome.<45> Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice.<45> In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.<45> As First Lady, Clinton hosted numerous White House Conferences, including ones on Child Care (1997),<127> Early Childhood Development and Learning (1997),<128> and Children and Adolescents (2000),<129> and the first-ever White House Conferences on Teenagers (2000)<130> and Philanthropy (1999).<131>

Hillary Clinton traveled to 79 countries during this time,<132> breaking the mark for most-travelled First Lady held by Pat Nixon.<133> In a September 1995 speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, Clinton argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in China itself,<134> declaring "that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights"<134> and resisting Chinese pressure to soften her remarks.<132> She was one of the most prominent international figures at the time to speak out against the treatment of Afghan women by the Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan.<135><136> She helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative sponsored by the United States to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries.<137>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

[Ikonoklast]

18. She must be referring to her days as a Goldwater Girl

And College Republican.

Ah, yes, the indescretions of youth.

[Sparkly]

31. Read her bio.

Someone posted this above:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

You're talking about a very very short period of time. Excerpts:

In 1965, Rodham enrolled in Wellesley College, where she majored in political science.<15> She served as president of the Wellesley Young Republicans organization during her freshman year.<16><17> However, due to her evolving views regarding the American Civil Rights Movement and the Vietnam War, she stepped down from that position;<16> she characterized her own nature as that of "a mind conservative and a heart liberal."<18> In her junior year, Rodham was affected by the death of Martin Luther King, Jr.,<8> and became a supporter of the anti-war presidential nomination campaign of Democrat Eugene McCarthy.<19> Rodham organized a two-day student strike and worked with Wellesley's black students for moderate changes, such as recruiting more black students and faculty.<20> In that same year she was elected president of the Wellesley College Government Association.<21><22> She attended the "Wellesley in Washington" summer program at the urging of Professor Alan Schechter, who assigned Rodham to intern at the House Republican Conference so she could better understand her changing political views.<20> Rodham was invited by Representative Charles Goodell, a moderate New York Republican, to help Governor Nelson Rockefeller’s late-entry campaign for the Republican nomination.<20> Rodham attended the 1968 Republican National Convention in Miami, where she decided to leave the Republican Party for good; she was upset over how Richard Nixon's campaign had portrayed Rockefeller and what Rodham perceived as the "veiled" racist messages of the convention.<20>

(snip)

Rodham then entered Yale Law School, where she served on the Board of Editors of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action.<30> During her second year, she worked at the Yale Child Study Center,<31> learning about new research on early childhood brain development and working as a research assistant on the seminal work, Beyond the Best Interests of the Child (1973).<32><33> She also took on cases of child abuse at Yale-New Haven Hospital,<32> and volunteered at New Haven Legal Services to provide free advice for the poor.<31> In the summer of 1970, she was awarded a grant to work at Marian Wright Edelman's Washington Research Project, where she was assigned to Senator Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migratory Labor, researching migrant workers' problems in housing, sanitation, health and education;<34><35> Edelman would become a significant mentor to her.<35>

In the late spring of 1971, she began dating Bill Clinton, who was also a law student at Yale. That summer, she interned on child custody cases<36> at the Oakland, California, law firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein,<37><38> which was well-known for its support of constitutional rights, civil liberties, and radical causes;<38> two of its four partners were current or former communist party members.<38><39><40> Clinton canceled his summer plans to live with her in an apartment in Berkeley, California,<41> later writing, "I told her I'd have the rest of my life for my work and my ambition, but I loved her and I wanted to see if it could work out for us."<41> The romance did develop, and the couple continued living together in New Haven when they returned to law school.<39> The following summer, Rodham and Clinton campaigned in Texas for unsuccessful 1972 Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern.<42><43> She received a Juris Doctor degree from Yale in 1973,<8> having spent an extra year there in order to be with Clinton.<44> Clinton first proposed marriage to her following graduation, but she declined at the time.<44> She began a year of post-graduate study on children and medicine at the Yale Child Study Center.<45> Her first scholarly paper, "Children Under the Law", was published in the Harvard Educational Review in late 1973<46> and became frequently cited in the field.

That's a fraction of it -- all before she married Clinton.

[Uncle Sinister]

21. Even though I'm an Edwards guy, Hil has a point

I don't like the lady, and will have to grit my teeth to support her if she manages to get the nod. OTOH, she DOES deserve some props. She has been on the side of the angels (on some issues) for a very long time. On health care, education, women's rights, and human rights her record is damned impressive. She was on the House committee to impeach Nixon, and ran a legal aid clinic for the poor after law school.

Is she the "change candidate"? Oh hell no. But has she legitimately been in the trenches for change her entire adult life? Yup, she has. She is my dead last choice for the nomination (now that Dodd and Biden are out), but I belive in giving credit where it's due.

[cynatnite]

23. Well said...

Welcome to DU :hi:

[Breeze54]

25. I don't know but Edwards responded that he had 54 years experience!

:rofl:

[DemCam]

34. har

[Rosemary2205]

39. I remember that - it WAS a joke wasn't it?

I don't remember thinking he was being serious but there was a lot in that debate. I know I chuckled............

[Breeze54]

56. Yes...although he didn't smile...

I think he was being :sarcasm: in a joking way! :P

I laughed! :D

[Emit]

40. I caught that too and I think it was in reference to how old he is and

living in working class/fighting for working class, or something like that.

[Raine]

43. No he did not say that

I was just this minute watching a repeat of the debate on CNN and I just heard that response he said I am 54 years old he did not say he had 54 years of experience.

Edit: took out a word.

[Breeze54]

57. It was in reference to her comment and

that's what I heard. He didn't say it loud though. ;)

[Raine]

88. Yeah it was kind of vague

then he trailed off and started talking about corporations like Costco etc. It was sort of an odd way of putting it. :D

[DemCam]

33. She has been politically active her whole life....

What is not to understand about 35 years?

[creeksneakers2]

36. She hasn't backed Bush on every big issue

That's nonsense.

[Mortos]

44. The IWR, Bankruptcy Bill, Kiel-Lieberman (attack Iran) bill

Supplemental war funding...Hell what has she not voted for from this president?

[Ineedchange]

45. She voted on the biils that will effect every American directly or indirectly

that harms us as a nation and GWB wanted. You can't vote along to get along then expect our vote and devotion.

Now we've answer the question about her experience.

[Marie26]

70. Ratings

Various interest groups have given Senator Clinton scores or grades as to how well her votes align with the positions of the group:

Through 2006, she has a lifetime 96% "Liberal Quotient" from Americans for Democratic Action.<257>

ProgressivePunch gives her a 91.4% lifetime progressive rating, ranking her the 28th most progressive of current senators.<258>

Through 2006, she has a lifetime 9% rating from the American Conservative Union.<259>

She received an 'A' (excellent) on the Drum Major Institute's 2005 Congressional Scorecard on middle-class issues.<260>

The American Civil Liberties Union has given her a 75% lifetime rating through September 2007.<261>

NARAL Pro-Choice America consistently gave her a 100% pro-choice rating from 2002 to 2006.<262>

The League of Conservation Voters has given her a lifetime 90% pro-environment action rating through 2006.<263>

Americans for Better Immigration has given her a lifetime grade of 'D-' (very near failing) through October 2007 on their Immigration-Reduction Report Card.<264>

The National Rifle Association gave her an 'F' (failing) rating in 2006 for her stance on Second Amendment issues.<265>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Hillary_Rodham_Clinton

[Sparkly]

48. What do you know about her OTHER than

the IWR, the bankruptcy bill, and K/L?

Or is that all you need to know and you've made up your mind based on that, in which case, why are you posting threads like this?

[creeksneakers2]

53. She hasn't been voting for funding for about a year

And those are hardly all the bills Bush wanted.

Kyl-Lieberman was never an attack Iran bill. It worked out great. It made war with Iraq far less likely. The far left got the meaning of Kyl-Lieberman wrong from the start and they keep repeating the same mistake. What they say is the opposite of what really happened.

[laconicsax]

59. Sort of...

She hardly voted at all on any funding bills the past year.

[laconicsax]

54. She's voted against some of his stuff

http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=55463

[Emit]

42. Excellent question.

One my (non-Bush-voting-ever) Repub spouse picked up on right away during the debate last night.

[Sparkly]

52. Plenty of answers on this thread.

Someone posted the wiki entry and I've pasted some excerpts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

[Marie26]

61. 35+ years, from Wikipedia

1969 - Rodham returned to Wellesley, and wrote her senior thesis about the tactics of radical community organizer Saul Alinsky under Professor Schechter... Stemming from the demands of some students,<24> she became the first student in Wellesley College history to deliver their commencement address.<22> According to reports by the Associated Press, her speech received a standing ovation lasting seven minutes.<25><26> She was featured in an article published in Life magazine, due to the response to a part of her speech that criticized Senator Edward Brooke, who had spoken before her at the commencement;<8> she also appeared on Irv Kupcinet's nationally-syndicated television talk show as well as in Illinois and New England newspapers.<27> That summer, she worked her way across Alaska, washing dishes in Mount McKinley National Park and sliming salmon in a fish processing cannery in Valdez (which fired her and shut down overnight when she complained about unhealthy conditions).<28><29>


1970 - 72
Rodham then entered Yale Law School, where she served on the Board of Editors of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action.<30> During her second year, she worked at the Yale Child Study Center,<31> learning about new research on early childhood brain development and working as a research assistant on the seminal work, Beyond the Best Interests of the Child (1973).<32><33> She also took on cases of child abuse at Yale-New Haven Hospital,<32> and volunteered at New Haven Legal Services to provide free advice for the poor.<31> In the summer of 1970, she was awarded a grant to work at Marian Wright Edelman's Washington Research Project, where she was assigned to Senator Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migratory Labor, researching migrant workers' problems in housing, sanitation, health and education;<34><35> Edelman would become a significant mentor to her.<35>

1973
That summer, she interned on child custody cases<36> at the Oakland, California, law firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein,<37><38> which was well-known for its support of constitutional rights, civil liberties, and radical causes;<38> two of its four partners were current or former communist party members.<38><39><40> ... The following summer, Rodham and Clinton campaigned in Texas for unsuccessful 1972 Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern.<42><43> ... She began a year of post-graduate study on children and medicine at the Yale Child Study Center.<45> Her first scholarly paper, "Children Under the Law", was published in the Harvard Educational Review in late 1973<46> and became frequently cited in the field.

1974 -
During her post-graduate study, Rodham served as staff attorney for Edelman's newly founded Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts,<47> and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children.<48> During 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.<49><50> Under the guidance of Chief Counsel John Doar and senior member Bernard Nussbaum,<32> Rodham helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.<50> The committee's work culminated in the resignation of President Richard Nixon in August 1974.<50>


1974-77
...In August 1974, she moved to Fayetteville, Arkansas, and became one of two female faculty members at the University of Arkansas, Fayetteville School of Law,<56> where Bill Clinton also taught. Even then, she still harbored doubts about marriage, concerned that her separate identity would be lost and her accomplishments would be viewed in the light of someone else's accomplishments.<57>

Rodham joined the venerable Rose Law Firm, a bastion of Arkansan political and economic influence,<62> in February 1977,<63> specializing in patent infringement and intellectual property law,<30> while also working pro bono in child advocacy;<64> she rarely performed litigation work in court.<65>

Rodham co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977.<30><66> In late 1977, President Jimmy Carter (for whom Rodham had done 1976 campaign coordination work in Indiana)<67> appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation,<68> and she served in that capacity from 1978 through the end of 1981.<69> For much of that time<70> she served as the chair of that board, the first woman to do so.<71> During her time as chair, funding for the Corporation was expanded from $90 million to $300 million,<64> and she successfully battled against President Ronald Reagan's initial attempts to reduce the funding and change the nature of the organization.<64>

1978-79
Following the November 1978 election of her husband as Governor of Arkansas, Rodham became First Lady of Arkansas in January 1979, her title for a total of twelve years (1979–1981, 1983–1992). Clinton appointed her chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee the same year,<72> where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.<73>

1982-92
As First Lady of Arkansas, Hillary Clinton chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee from 1982 to 1992,<80> where she sought to bring about reform in the state's court-sanctioned public education system.<81><82> One of the most important initiatives of the entire Clinton governorship,<81> she fought a prolonged but ultimately successful battle against the Arkansas Education Association<81> to put mandatory teacher testing as well as state standards for curriculum and classroom size in place.<81> She introduced Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth in 1985, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy.<83> She was named Arkansas Woman of the Year in 1983 and Arkansas Mother of the Year in 1984.<84>

... From 1987 to 1991 she chaired the American Bar Association's Commission on Women in the Profession,<87> which addressed gender bias in the law profession and induced the association to adopt measures to combat it.<87> She was twice named by the National Law Journal as one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America, in 1988 and in 1991.<88> ...

Clinton served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital Legal Services (1988–1992)<91> and the Children's Defense Fund (as chair, 1986–1992).<92><10>

1992- 2000

Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage.<125> She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare.<126> She successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.<45> The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome.<45> Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice.<45> In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.<45>

In a September 1995 speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, Clinton argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in China itself,<134> declaring "that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights"<134> and resisting Chinese pressure to soften her remarks.<132> She was one of the most prominent international figures at the time to speak out against the treatment of Afghan women by the Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan.<135><136> She helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative sponsored by the United States to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries.<137>


2001 - present

- Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, Clinton sought to obtain funding for the recovery efforts in New York City and security improvements in her state. Working with New York's senior senator, Charles Schumer, she was instrumental in quickly securing $21.4 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment.<195><196><197> She subsequently took a leading role in investigating the health issues faced by 9/11 first responders.<198>

Looking to establish a "progressive infrastructure" to rival that of American conservatism,<210> Clinton played a formative role in conversations that led to the 2003 founding of former Clinton administration chief of staff John Podesta's Center for American Progress;<211><212> shared aides with Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, founded in 2003;<213> advised and nurtured the Clintons' former antagonist David Brock's Media Matters for America, created in 2004;<213><212> and following the 2004 Senate elections, successfully pushed new Democratic Senate leader Harry Reid to create a Senate war room to handle daily political messaging.<213>

Hillary Rodham Clinton - awards and honors.

Around 1994, then First Lady Hillary Clinton received the Living Legacy Award from the Women's International Center, in recognition of "her vast contributions in so many fields, especially honoring her work for women and children."<1>

In May 1998, Clinton received the United Arab Emirates Health Foundation Prize for her work in health and social welfare, especially as it related to women, children, and families.<2>

In April 1999, Clinton was honored with the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Children of Chernobyl Relief Fund for her support of that Ukrainian organization's efforts regarding legacy effects of the Chernobyl accident.<3>

In June 1999, Clinton received the "Mother Teresa Award", the highest honor given to civilians by Albania. This was in recognition of her humanitarian efforts following the Kosovo War and worldwide.<4>

On March 26, 2004, Clinton was presented with the inaugural Nursing Health and Humanity Award from the University of Rochester School of Nursing.<5>

On February 13, 2005, Clinton was awarded the German Media Prize 2004, "Hillary Clinton is a model politician for millions of women around the world" who "represents in an exemplary way women's rights", the jury for the prize said.<6>

On February 15, 2005, Clinton was given the American Medical Women's Association's "President’s Vision & Voice Award", for being an advocate for women's health and related issues.<7>

On October 9, 2005, Clinton was inducted into the National Women's Hall of Fame.<11>

In April 2006, Clinton was honored with the Remembrance Award from the Northeastern New York Chapter of the Alzheimer's Association.<12>

On June 14, 2006, Clinton received an Energy Leadership Award from the United States Energy Association's Energy Efficiency Forum, in recognition of her leadership on energy issues.<13>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton#Law_school

[undeterred]

63. Lets count Laura Bushs experience too then.

[Sparkly]

68. Why?

Are all wives the same?

[undeterred]

77. She has many years as the "wife of" a governor and president.

She recently said she was involved in decision making, but don't you think people would think it was ridiculous if she put it on a resume and counted it as a dozen years in high office?

[Sparkly]

81. Yes, that would be ridiculous.

Hillary Clinton doesn't put "wife of" on her resume and count it as a dozen years in high office.

[electron_blue]

71. She has done more than be a Senator and a wife. Do you really think she sat on her thumbs

before Bill got elected to Pres?

[Sparkly]

74. You mean, women don't just stay home and bake cookies and have teas?

Isn't having her own work what started the anti-Hillary campaign in the first place?

The irony.

[electron_blue]

91. Yes, that is true.

[Binka]

83. No I Believe She Sat On Her Ass. That Is Why We Have One You Know.

Thumbs are meant for twiddling after all.

[electron_blue]

92. Dismissing her experience as irrelevant, analogous to sitting on her ass, is a

form of sexism. Why does Edwards get to use his legal experience, but not Hillary?

[Cha]

73. "hillary's 35+years of Phantom Experience"

"Hillary's 35+ Years of Phantom Experience

"Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y) and her allies repeatedly say she has 35 years of relevant experience. My question is where does all this experience originate? The Senator has no experience running a city, she’s never run a state, she’s never run a business, … So I’m trying to figure out where the experience is here.
She has laid out 35 years of tenured experience that has gone virtually unchallenged by her revivals. Recently she hurled her experience to the American Federation of Teachers, quoting she also has 35 years of experience of working on education. Exactly what experience is Hillary eagerly advertising during town hall meetings, press spots, and during debates? If it's the same "OLD" Washington experience then I'm not impressed, it's that type of experience that wages wars without provocation and ignores the American peoples resolute to end such wars.
"The same "OLD" experience is not relevant. You can have the right kind of experience and the wrong kind of experience." These are the famous words of her husband, Bill Clinton who is also saying he was against the war and I think he was absolutely right. I don’t think the same old Washington experience is relevant today.
What about it, is her 35 years of experience relevant today? Inquiring voters want to know."

http://tbk.newsvine.com/_news/2007/11/28/1128021-hillarys-35-years-of-phantom-experience-

[Marie26]

76. I just don't get it

OMG, I got exhausted just reading about all of the things she's done. How can people say that she doesn't have experience?

[Sparkly]

78. Easy: They don't read it.

They "know all they need to know."

They WRITE about her, but don't read about her.

Simple.

[Marie26]

84. Seems like it.

These fake innocent questions "what has she done? Inquiring minds want to know." But then they ignore or refuse to read about the things she has actually accomplished. I give her props, but I still had no idea about the sheer number of things that she has done for women, children, the underprivileged, the uninsured, etc. etc. - when HC talked about "hard work", she wasn't kidding.

If only she wasn't so hawkish...

[Cha]

80. Maybe you didn't read the

post you just replied to? What kind of experience has she had? Is it what we need now? No, I don't think so.

[Sparkly]

82. "What kind of experience has she had?"

Do you want an answer? Or do you already know all you need to know, as you said?

[Marie26]

86. You quoted a two-paragraph anonymous

"opinion piece" from who knows where. It's basically a repeat of the OP - claiming that HC hasn't had real experience. But it's easy to learn about her real experience if you want to. Just check out Wikipedia. I feel like this is fake - people pretending that she hasn't done anything "real". Her accomplishments aren't "phantom experience", it's 30+ years of championing human rights, women's rights, children's rights, health care, education etc. Maybe it's not what the country needs right now, maybe we need someone newer & less entrenched in DC. But IMO as Democrats we've got to respect the real issues that she has fought for & the real changes she has accomplished.

[Cha]

87. Yeah, but it said so well what

I think about hillary and her years and years and years of experience..she's entrenched in the old inside the beltways and I don't think her experience is relevant.

I'm not trying to change your mind..you can take hillary's experience and have a good time with it, too.

[dailykoff]

75. Intern for Gerald Ford and Republican National Caucus, WalMart lawyer,

president of Wellesley Young Republicans... did I leave anything out?

[Sparkly]

79. "Did I leave anything out?"

Just a little. :eyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_clinton

[bdamomma]

93. where does she figure she has 35 yrs. experience????

Biden has the experience, he has been a Senator for 35 years.

[k8conant]

95. During 35 years she's had experiences..

I would have liked to have been able to like Hillary, but I don't. This is an example of her campaign style that turns me off. Saturday night she came out against Obama for having changed position on health care when he hadn't and I'm sorry he and Edwards didn't say right back that she herself has done precisely that, specifically on Iraq. She's saying only what she thinks she needs to say to weasel her way in. She wants to show she's a "fighter". So what? I'm looking for diplomacy and peace.

Maybe I don't have enough experience to understand her because I'm a woman who's a year and a half younger than she. :sarcasm: