Larisa Alexandrovna: "Sibel Speaks Part II - Naming More Names..."

[Hissyspit]

http://www.atlargely.com/2008/01/sibel-speaks-pa.html

Sibel Speaks Part II: Naming Names...

I have decided that after years of not getting anyone to publish what I have found out about the Edmonds case, I am simply going to give you folks some names. I won't explain what the allegations are, or how these people might fit together or even if they fit together. I also don't claim to have all the names or know the full story by any means. But I am certain, that brilliant bloggers, researchers, and journalists will finally figure it out:

Richard Perle
Doug Feith
Eric Edelman
Marc Grossman
Larry Franklin
Dennis Hastert
Roy Blunt
Dan Burton
Tom Lantos
Bob Livingston
Stephen Solarz
Graham Fuller
David Makovsky
Alan Markovsky
Enver Yusuf
Sabri Sayari
Mehmet Eymur

And a few phrases for you folks to play around with (in no particular order):

Gray Wolves
Shanghai Cooperation Organization
RAND Corporation
PNAC
East Turkmenistan
Iran
Syria
Foreign Policy
King Faisal
ISI

Now start digging kids!!

[Hissyspit]

1. Original Larisa 'Sibel Speaks' thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2612872&mesg_id=2612872

[Hissyspit]

2. Original Lukery 'Sibel Speaks' thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2609572

[lala_rawraw]

3. wow, i thought this would have gotten

more attention... you post the full laundry list (or almost the full list) and no one shows up:(

[Lerkfish]

5. hiya lala!

good to see you again!

I"m interested, kicked and reccomended.

[lala_rawraw]

8. you too:_)

[JackRiddler]

21. Sorry, we're having the quadrennial history wash

The crimes of the Bush Era are about to become "old news."

[HamdenRice]

26. Think of it as a homework assignment

We're already getting busy and that's why were not posting yet!

Regards, Lala!

[robertpaulsen]

30. Larisa, I saw you added Henry Kissinger to the list. How about these turkeys?

James Baker III?

Sam Brownback?

Richard Armitage?

And last, but certainly not least...

Dick Cheney?

http://www.counterpunch.org/edmonds11292006.html

P.S. How about adding AACC (American Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce) as one of the few phrases to play around with?

[Tom Joad]

4. Larry Franklin, who is facing a 12 year term, gave documents to aipac

The members of aipac (Rosen and Weismann) in turn gave these documents to Israel.
Lawrence Franklin has pled guilty to passing on a classified Presidential Directive, and other sensitive documents pertaining to US deliberations on foreign policy regarding Iran, to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, who in turn provided the information to Israel.

The two aipac dudes are set to go to trial in April (after many delays, about a dozen or so, seems everyone has lost count)

This all has to do with aipac's promotion of war with Iran.

We gotta stop aipac.

www.stopaipac.org

[lala_rawraw]

11. who is funding Franklin's defense?

hint: on the list

[Tom Joad]

15. Franklin has already pleaded guilty. Rosen and Weissman are due to go to trial

and they are being funded by aipac. though they may end up hurting aipac by the manner of their defense. (aipac fired the two, claiming this is not the way they do business.... but their defense is saying this is normal business on capitol hill... this will not help aipac)

[lala_rawraw]

16. yes, but franklin still needed an attorney...

he plead guilty, this is true, but he needed an attorney still

[loudsue]

28. Ok. I can't wait to find out....

Who is his atty???

[MadMaddie]

6. For the Americans on this list T-R-E-A-S-O-N

[SpiralHawk]

32. Bingo

kick

[opihimoimoi]

dupe.....srry

[opihimoimoi]

7. K&R'd

[lovuian]

9. it makes one wonder about Turkey strikes in Iraq

have connections here
Definitely PNAC names in there
It really shows why the CIA and FBI needed to be crippled

TREASON

[RuleOfNah]

29. Kurds vs Turkey.

My weak impression is that Turkey and neighboring countries (and Churchill) want to keep the Kurds (Sunni, yet secularish?) from forming a new country.

[AntiFascist]

10. K&R, weeeee.......

Here's something I found on the 'Gray Wolves':

We also now know that Mehmet Ali Agca, the would-be killer of the Pope, was a member of Turkey's far right Gray Wolves and the plot was carried out to lay blame on the Russian KGB and Bulgaria's secret intelligence service.


I wouldn't dare post the link.

[bleever]

12. K&R!

Thank you, larisa. :yourock:

[DemReadingDU]

13. This Tom Lantos?

Dean Statement on Lantos Retirement and Illness

WASHINGTON, Jan. 3 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Democratic National
Committee Chairman Howard Dean today issued the following statement today
on Congressman Tom Lantos's retirement and battle with cancer:

"California's 12th District and indeed all Americans are losing a great
public servant with the retirement of Congressman Tom Lantos. As Chairman
of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and through his many years of public
service, Congressman Lantos has shown strength, leadership, and resolve. No
stranger to daunting challenges, I know that he will bring the same spirit
of courage and perseverance that has been a hallmark of his life to his
battle with cancer. On behalf of the Democratic Party, our thoughts and
prayers are with Congressman Lantos and his family during this difficult
time."

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-03-2008/0004730078&EDATE=

[AntiFascist]

19. This Lantos....

And who can forget the last time Lantos shilled for a Bush war on Iraq? On October 10, 1990, Lantos, who laughably chaired the Congressional Human Rights Caucus, held a meeting during which a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl who only went by the name Nayirah told a sobbing hearing room that as a volunteer for a Kuwait hospital she personally witnessed Iraqi soldiers yank new born babies from their incubators, steal the incubators, and leave the infants on the cold floors to die. Lantos, it turns out, was in on a little scam he cooked up with Citizens for a Free Kuwait and an entity Lantos chaired called the Congressional Human Rights Foundation. In fact, both organizations were rump entities set up by the public relations firm Hill and Knowlton, the same company that is now shilling for the Saudis to fend off all criticism of Osama bin Laden's true paymasters.

[AntiFascist]

14. I found this on the SCO 'Strategy of tension'....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=116x13951

The net achievement of US Central Asian policy has been to generate anti-US hostility in Russia, and hasten the strengthening and importance of the SCO, which also involves China and may soon include Iran.

In other words, an unrealistic, absurdly idealistic policy has served mainly to prod the Bear with a sharp stick and help coalesce the region into an anti-US block.


An unrealistic, absurdly idelistic policy - where have I seen that before? PNAC?

[kineneb]

17. cross post from part I- Grey Wolves

Gray Wolves: jogged my memory...got down my copy of Martin Lee's The Beast Reawakens... discussing the "stay behind" underground Nazi groups of the 1950s, funded by CIA as anti-communist...in note on 56: The Turkish arm (of the Gehlen Org's sleeper groups) worked in tandem with the Gray Wolves, a violent neo-Nazi youth group. These sleeper groups were outgrowths of Otto Skorzeny's Werewolves.

...the other reference, p.202: FANE also collaborated with the Turkish Grey Wolves, a neo-Nazi terrorist group whose most famous member, Mehmet Ali Agca, shot Pope John Paul II in May 1981.

I won't quote the long note that follows, but here are more names and connections therein:
-Abdullah Catli- gave Agca the gun used
-Duane Dewey Clarridge - served w/CIA in Turkey, early-mid 1970s
-coup assisted by Grey Wolves which overthrew legit gov. circa early 1980s- worked w/Turkish army version of "stay behind" group "Counter-Guerrilla Org."
-Grey Wolves also involved w/drugs trade, couriers for Turkish Mafia
-they also smuggled lots of NATO armaments into Middle East, 70s-80s, often in exchange for heroin>then smuggled into Italy>smuggled to US

...oops forgot...FANE=Federation d'action nationale europeene (sorry no French characters avail)=French neo-Nazi group, headed at that time by Marc Frederiksen

and all these folks connect to: Reinhard Gehlen, Otto Skorzeny, Otto Ernst Reimer, Michael Kuehnen

[SalmonChantedEvening]

18. Reading, saving and kicking for Sibel, Larisa and Hissy

There great people, and great champions of truth.

:yourock: :patriot: :loveya:

[Oilwellian]

20. Be well Sibel, and....

thank you so much for your bravery and naming those who are traitors to America and the world. We will never let this story die and will demand of our media and congresscritters an investigation that damn well better take place. :hug:

This should be the official DU investigative thread.

K&R

[Oilwellian]

22. Check this out on Sibel's website....

she calls it the State Secrets Privilege Gallery :D

http://www.justacitizen.com/images/Gallery%20Draft2%20for%20Web.htm

[noise]

23. Broad outline

1. Strategy of tension. Get the public to cheerlead for their 'heroic' leaders and keep criticism to a minimum. 9/11 was required to pave the way for public acquiescence.

2. War profiteering. Easy money. Because the pretext is fighting terrorism the dissent is kept in check.

3. New markets ala The Shock Doctrine. If Iraq doesn't want to sign deals with US oil companies then the MIC complex will get the oil contracts with military force.

4. Large scale military intervention requires a pretext. What better than the prospect of a mushroom cloud?

5. Oil prices go up making leading oil producing nations happy.

6. The drug money is used to fund terrorists which serve as proxy forces used to destabilize regions to create a pretext to send military force (new markets or some easy war profiteering money). Also, the terrorists justify domestic repression (always have to worry about the dissent. Get RAND to draw up some HR 1955 garbage to make citizens think twice before criticizing their 'patriotic' leaders).

[bobthedrummer]

24. k&r

where some of us are excavating the canary is unconscious

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

25. K & R.

[Tuesday_Morning]

27. k & r

[DemReadingDU]

31. morning kick