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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:28 PM
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Film Critic and Arch Conservative Michael Medved is an idiot.
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2007/02/21/qotd/index.html

"Tim Hardaway (and most of his former NBA teammates) wouldn't welcome openly gay players into the locker room any more than they'd welcome profoundly unattractive, morbidly obese women. I specify unattractive females because if a young lady is attractive (or, even better, downright 'hot') most guys, very much including the notorious love machines of the National Basketball Association, would probably welcome her joining their showers. The ill-favored, grossly overweight female is the right counterpart to a gay male because, like the homosexual, she causes discomfort due to the fact that attraction can only operate in one direction. She might well feel drawn to the straight guys with whom she's grouped, while they feel downright repulsed at the very idea of sex with her." -- radio host and film critic Michael Medved, on the recent homophobic comments of former NBA star Tim Hardaway.
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DrunkenMaster Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:30 PM
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1. What Charming Fellas!
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 03:31 PM by DrunkenMaster
I'm willing to bet that if you put Medved and Hardaway in a room together they wouldn't be able to keep their hands off each other....throw Ted Haggard in there with a bottle of Astroglide and you'd have one hell of a party.
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electprogdems Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:38 PM
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5. Agree
I don't know why, but I'd bet all of next year's margaritas that medved is gay. I just get that sense from him.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:17 PM
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22. Oh you get that "sense", do you?
:eyes:
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:38 PM
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7. Evil people are not secretly gay, they're just evil!
How many times do we have to say this before everyone catches on?
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DrunkenMaster Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:43 PM
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9. Homophobia is caused by repressed sexual arousal!
Medved & Hardaway aren't "evil" (although their actions certainly cause bad things to occur), he's a homophobe! If you do a little research I think you will find that there is a profound body of research that shows that violent homophobia is a direct result of repressed homoerotic arousal. I'll link to a study below to get the ball rolling.

I know it is tempting to use labels like "evil", but those types of simplicities tend to blind us to the complex psychological realities that create these types of prejudice. That is all I meant -- sorry if you took offense to the original post!

http://www.selfhelpmagazine.com/articles/glb/glbtphobia.html

IS HOMOPHOBIA ASSOCIATED WITH HOMOSEXUAL AROUSAL?
by Henry E. Adams, Ph.D., Lester W. Wright, Jr., Ph.D. and Bethany A. Lohr
New Study Links Homophobia with Homosexual Arousal
Questions Whether It Is Latent Homosexuality Or A Response to Anxiety
Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia --the fear, anxiety, anger, discomfort and aversion that some ostensibly heterosexual people hold for gay individuals -- is the result of repressed homosexual urges that the person is either unaware of or denies. A study appearing in the August issue of the Journal of Abnormal Psychology, published by the American Psychological Association (APA), provides new empirical evidence that is consistent with that theory.

Researchers at the University of Georgia conducted an experiment involving 35 homophobic men and 29 non-homophobic men as measured by the Index of Homophobia scale. All the participants selected for the study described themselves as exclusively heterosexual both in terms of sexual arousal and experience.

Each participant was exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual and lesbian videotapes (but not necessarily in that order). Their degree of sexual arousal was measured by penile plethysmography, which precisely measures and records male tumescence.

Men in both groups were aroused by about the same degree by the video depicting heterosexual sexual behavior and by the video showing two women engaged in sexual behavior. The only significant difference in degree of arousal between the two groups occurred when they viewed the video depicting male homosexual sex: "The homophobic men showed a significant increase in penile circumference to the male homosexual video, but the control men did not."

Broken down further, the measurements showed that while 66% of the non-homophobic group showed no significant tumescence while watching the male homosexual video, only 20% of the homophobic men showed little or no evidence of arousal. Similarly, while 24% of the non-homophobic men showed definite tumescence while watching the homosexual video, 54% of the homophobic men did.

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:55 PM
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13. Ah perfect. So it's gay folks own fault that there is homophobia?
Genius.

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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:59 PM
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16. This is the only study that has been done on this.
And 64 people were observed. I need more than just this to fall back on your theory that homophobia is caused by repressed sexual arousal.
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:59 PM
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17. I'm sick of hearing about this study, it proves nothing.
I'm also sick of hearing that every bigoted homophobe must be gay. Most of them are just bigoted homophobes.

Posts like yours that quote this one study of self-identified homophobes are one of the reasons why the gays here on DU might be coming off as a bit "touchy" or whatever recently. This study doesn't show anything more than the fact that out of a group of 35 self-identified homophobes, some might experience some tumescence when shown a homosexual video, as do 24% of the group of 29 non-homophobic men. I'm sorry, but the sample size for this study is too small to mean anything to me. I don't know how any empirical evidence about the basis for anti-gay bigotry can found in a sample this small.

Tt must make the heterosexuals feel better about themselves or something when they can call the bigots gay. Of course the bigots are gay because straight people aren't bigoted, only repressed homosexuals are. Please. There is already enough heterosexist bias in the world.

I'm sorry my post isn't as well-worded as some, but I hope everyone will understand why this bigot=repressed nonsense irritates the hell out of some of us gays.



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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:04 PM
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19. You're not alone. MOST of the DU GLBT community has had it with this crap.
Oh, and welcome to DU.

:hi:
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:06 PM
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20. We've got to keep fighting the good fight I suppose
:hi: :hi: thanks for the wave!
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:27 PM
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30. ROFLMAO
Ya know what, you really need to do some more homowork. While this might be the case with SOME phobes, it isn't the case with all of them! Stop spining it to suit yourself.
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electprogdems Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:53 PM
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11. Sorry, didn't mean to say anything hurtful -
I don' think that evil people are secretly gay, just evil, as you say, however secretly gay people, especially those in positions of power can do some really fucked up and repressive things. Like that not-so-veiled misogyny put out by mevded.
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:03 PM
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18. Of course, it's the closeted gays who are responsible for the evils of the world
Maniacal and sociopathic straight people in power are like fluffy bunnies compared to the evil closeted gays! :sarcasm:



:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:29 PM
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33. Dig yourself a deeper hole why don't you? n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:17 PM
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23. ...
:eyes:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:18 PM
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24. I know.
Some people haven't learned manners yet.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:20 PM
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25. I'm sorry, Bluebear. I was hoping this thread wouldn't take that direction.
I just wanted everyone to see what a moran Medved is.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:22 PM
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26. Yuo're not making the childish comments. n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:24 PM
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27. Please NYCgirl :)
We all know nobody can control which way a thread will turn here :hug:
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:24 PM
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29. Yes that's right...
...they are evil, evil is gay, so therefore they must be gay! I forgot this is how it works now!

Unfuckingbelievable that we must still see tripe like this on a progressive forum.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:28 PM
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31. That's such a disgusting post.
You should be ashamed.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:30 PM
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2. That is just low-down mean
Michael Medved is a jerk.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:31 PM
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3. Damn, I don't even know where to start on how messed up that shit is.
:wtf::wow::crazy:
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:34 PM
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4. Yeah, the whole paragraph just oozes "stupid".....nt
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:38 PM
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6. Lets give him the Medved award
for offending the most amount of people in the shortest amount of time. What an idiot:dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:43 PM
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8. OMG. Ned Flanders loses his mine--diddly--ind (mind).
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 03:44 PM by Lex


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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:51 PM
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10. does that dude own a mirror?
because he is butt-ugly, inside and out.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:55 PM
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12. He's reached Colbert levels of ridiculousness.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:58 PM
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15. unlike colbert, he doesn't know it. n/t
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 03:57 PM
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14. I hope Medved's wife gains 100 lbs!
:grr:
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Goat or Panic Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:16 PM
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21. Tbogg
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:29 PM
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28. Meanwhile, NO ONE wants to fuck Michael Medved.
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 04:29 PM by impeachdubya
For someone who rails about gay men, it's interesting that he's one of the only humans left on the planet wearing the classic gay man mustache circa 1977.

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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:32 PM
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34. The old "Keith Hernandez" moustache
Maybe it's just me but the moustache is incredibly unattractive. The only people I see wearing it nowadays are creepy dudes arrested for stalking 12 year olds on the internet.

{shudder}
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:29 PM
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32. I met someone who claims she was sexually assaulted by that
weasily fuck.
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