C-Span - Weds, 2/21, 3pm ET: Presidential Candidates Forum **LIVE**

[Catchawave]

Presidential Candidates Forum
C-SPAN presents LIVE coverage of the first 2008 Democratic Presi-
dential Candidates Forum. Eight candidates have confirmed they will participate, including Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE), Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT), Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM), and others. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News will moderate.
WEDNESDAY, C-SPAN, 3PM ET

From the Edwards campaign, he will be appearing also, approx 3:45pm ET.

view online at: http://www.c-span.org/

[halobeam]

1. thank you......

rec.

[Change has come]

2. This is taking place in Carson City NV (where I live)

The local republics are going ape shit!:dem:

[Catchawave]

3. Only declared candidates invited?

I couldn't find any more information on " and others".

[Change has come]

4. Clark may be attending.

Obama will not be here due to scheduling conflicts.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070221/NEWS18/70221002&oaso=news.rgj.com/breakingnews

[Catchawave]

6. Thanks for the info

Cspan's wasn't as detailed. Should be a good show! Sounds like a fiesty crowd :)

[Catchawave]

5. AFSCM President - Gerald McEntee speaking now

[oasis]

7. Dodd up now.

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9. Good speaker!

[oasis]

11. Yes, possibly the best of this bunch.

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8. Chris Dodd up now

[oasis]

10. "Six years of on-the-job training" Dodd says of Bush.

[Cleetus]

12. Tried to get tickets.. Impossible for average guy..

I live in Carson, this event is taking place about 10 blocks from where I live. It's a shame that only the heaviest contributors to NV Dems and insiders have a shot at tickets. I know 2 dozen people who tried to get tickets (from the beginning) and failed.

So a bunch of my more affluent and connected neighbors get to go.

Whoopie.

[oasis]

13. What about AFSCME union members? It's their event.

Edit: event for hall.

[oasis]

14. "Out of Baghdad now" Dodd says.

[Catchawave]

15. Gets mail from "AARP and Diaper Services"

Funny :D

[oasis]

16. Clinton up.

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17. Big Cheer for Hillary

[oasis]

18. A few jeers but she's talking union language and picking up steam.

[Catchawave]

21. I thought I heard boos, but they were in the minority.

She's doing well also.

[oasis]

19. "Why wasn't your IWR vote a mistake" G.S. asked her.

"I take responsibility" she says.She will sponsor legislation cutting money for Iraqi troops because they won't stand and fight.

[oasis]

20. Healthcare. Bush want to cut Children's health care. She wants to increase funds.

She'll work for universal healthcare by the end of her term.

[benny05]

30. Correction--end of her SECOND term

How pompus is that?

[benny05]

38. John Edwards Up

:loveya:

[oasis]

22. Talking about Geffen and the politics of personal destruction.

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23. Asking her about the recent Obama dust-up

non-answer? Mentioned Bill's name, big cheer for Bubba :D

[benny05]

24. Denied accusation about Obama camp?

As usual, Clinton the dodger.

[oasis]

33. Why hijack this thread when there's an abundance of others bashing Hillary?

[benny05]

45. Just reacting to what I see on TV

that's all, quicker to type.

How about Mrs. Clinton avoided giving an answer and said instead I'll let the other campaign take care of that.

[oasis]

53. She wasn't dodging. She chooses not to get into a fued with Obama over

something he didn't say.

[helderheid]

25. just tuned in - is Kucinich there?

[oasis]

31. Don't think so but check list in OP.

[helderheid]

32. I am hoping he is part of the "and others. " :)

:hi:

[oasis]

35. George Step. rattled off a slew of names at the start. I couldn't keep up.

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37. helderheid...Dennis is on the Kos roster

they're liveblogging over there too :hi:

[helderheid]

40. Thank you!!

:hi:

[oasis]

26. Vilsack up, he's okay.

[oasis]

28. Honorary member of an AFSCME local in Iowa.

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27. Vilsack...warm reception.....

I like Tom, he responded to me in a Kos liveblog recently :)

[oasis]

29. "End the war now" he says. "Stop the funding"

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34. "money for healthcare, not war"

I can dig that :D

[oasis]

36. Vilsack has some great ideas. He comes accross as sincere. That's important.

[oasis]

39. Edwards helped with raising minimum wage.

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41. Passed in all 6 states too :)

[oasis]

42. Edwards to knock off Bush's tax cuts for those making over $200,000.

[flpoljunkie]

69. Promising universal health care immediately when he takes office vs. Hillary's at end of 2nd term

Edwards really upped the ante here.

[oasis]

43. Edwards is challenging Hillary for not apologizing for IWR vote.

[benny05]

49. He says he cannot judge because

Only she knows what's in her conscience

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44. The DKOS roster includes:

Joe Biden
Hillary Clinton
Chris Dodd
John Edwards
Mike Gravel
Dennis Kucinich
Bill Richardson
Tom Vilsack

Obama has decided not to "join the discussion."

Discussion/diary/more links at: http://www.dailykos.com/hotlist/add/2007/2/21/135354/875/displaystory//

[helderheid]

46. Huh! Obama chose not to go - any ideas as to why?

[oasis]

51. In Beverly Hills with the Dreamworks gang? Not that there's anything

with it. Money is money,but more money is more money.

[oasis]

55. Correction: Obama's in Des Moines, Iowa.

[Bukowski Fan]

54. Just my guess

But I think it's because it would be much harder for Obama to win in Nevada than in Iowa, Iowa is more important than Nevada, and by skipping this forum to campaign in Des Moines, he has garnered a TON of positive free media in Iowa.

[helderheid]

59. thanks!

:hi:

[flpoljunkie]

56. Barack Obama is in Iowa today and getting a mighty lot of attention.

From today's Des Moines Register...

Obama hits D.M.

Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, will hold a town hall meeting this evening at the Polk County Convention Complex in Des Moines. Doors open at 6:45 p.m. The event is free and open to the public but advance tickets are required. Free tickets are available online at www.barackobama.com or call [phone] for a list of ticket locations.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070221/NEWS09/702210435/-1/politics&lead=1

[LSK]

47. thanks for the reminder!

[oasis]

48. "Globilization has made it more difficcult for the average working family" Edwards.

[LSK]

50. why the hell is this happening in the middle of the day

When most people WORK!!!

Who plans this stuff?

[Catchawave]

52. LOL....Cspan will re-run this a brazillion more times

between now and election day 2008 :D

On a break now....candidates posing on the stage together now. I counted 7.

[oasis]

57. Whose son did Mercurio say supports Hillary against the father's wishes?

[benny05]

92. Clinton made Rory Reid, Harry Reid's Son

Chair of her Nevada campaign committee.

It was announced on Sunday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/17/AR2007021701351.html

But I don't know if that is whom the commentator if referring to as I turned it off after Edwards. I have limited time at work.

[oasis]

119. Thanks (eom)

[oasis]

58. Reporter mention that Florida Reps, Debbie Wasserman Shultz and Alcee Hastings

are backing Hillary.

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60. Richardson ! Candidates please sign pledge not to bash each other!!

Great opening!

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65. I don't think Cspan edits....the re-airing of this should

be just as entertaining :D

Great crowd today, all Democrats I presume :toast:

[oasis]

61. Gov. Richardson proposes pledge for Dems not to attack each other.

[flpoljunkie]

63. Wasn't that John Edwards line in 2004?

[oasis]

66. Dunno, but he strayed a bit from it a few minutes ago.

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73. Not directly.....

:evilgrin:

[oasis]

78. His lawyerly skills are still intact. (eom)

[LSparkle]

62. Richardson out-Edwardsing Edwards

Wants to run a "positive campaign" and is asking for all candidates to sign pledge.

I really like Richardson's delivery -- he sounds so damned natural it reminds me of ... Big Dawg.

[oasis]

68. He and Vilsack have been impressive.

[bigdarryl]

121. What do you expect there GOVERNORS

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76. I've always liked Richardson....

Very approachable too.

[oasis]

64. Richardson's administration created 84,000 high paying new jobs.

[LSparkle]

67. Richardson: "Congress must de-authorize the Iraq war"

And give Iraq a chance through DIPLOMACY.

Now moving on to energy independence. The thing I like about Richardson is he can talk in bullet points and then elaborate. Crams a lot of red meat policy into very short time.

[LSparkle]

70. Great response from Richardson on the Obama/Hillary flap

"I was too busy preparing for this forum to read all the news ... "

[Skidmore]

72. What flap?

I just joined in. Sorry, I was taking a nap. What happened?

[LSparkle]

74. David Geffen was quoted as saying some negative things

about Hillary, in defending his donation to Obama. (He said she comes with too much baggage basically and that Bill didn't behave responsibly when he was president.) Hillary's camp has said Obama should denounce Geffen's statement and give back the money, he's refused at this point.

It's already getting nasty out there ...

[Cha]

123. Oh yeah, like hill-ary

would give back any money.

That's just disingenuous..not surprised.

[flpoljunkie]

75. It all started this morning with Mo Dowd's column...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3125182&mesg_id=3125182

[snowbear]

71. The NM Governor has a pretty good sense of humor.. I like that!

I also agreed with him that we HAVE to select a candidate that can win not just in the blue states -- but in every state in the nation.

Good job to the Gov..

[helderheid]

77. Have y'all noticed how much they are sounding like Kucinich back in 2004?

I am very very impressed!

[Catchawave]

79. They are all making me proud to be a DEMOCRAT....

:grouphug:

[LSparkle]

80. He had a great one-liner at the DNC meeting

Something like, "We have big problems in this country. We've got the Iraq war, we need to be energy independent, middle class is going away. Well, I can solve all those problems in three words: A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT" (or it may have been "A Democrat in the White House"). He's really a relaxed speaker, very easy-going and confidence-inspiring.

[oasis]

81. Biden says "sign me up to the no bashing Dems list".

[flpoljunkie]

83. It's a little late for Biden.

[oasis]

86. He misspoke on the Obama thing.

[Catchawave]

82. Biden up...have been a fan of his forever :)

[snowbear]

85. C~Wave.. How did you like Richardson?

I was incredibly impressed with both his delivery AND his content.

WOW. Sign me up for the "impressed with Richardson" group..

[Catchawave]

91. Loved him too !

Like I said, all these candidate are making me a Democratic Proud today :patriot:

Do you suppose we can sign up DUers to take the "I will not bash other candidates" pledge? :toast:

Know what, I can't believe how lucky we are, as American citizens and voters to watch this live today. The cable news networks are jacking off to Anna Nicole's (RIP) decaying body, and Britany. :banghead:

This is OUR FUTURE! Thank you Cspan :D

[snowbear]

101. I agree.. they've ALL done great today!

It would be nice if we could all agree on a "candidates pledge" and not bash our least favorites..

.... but = sigh =

More than likely it will be.. ...until after our nominee is selected.

Eventually though.. once we have our nominee.. this place will come together BIG TIME.

[leyton]

109. Me too. Biden made me proud today...

to be one of his supporters. The guy's serious and knows what he's doing.

[oasis]

84. Biden has master plan for diplomatic solution in Iraq.

[cascadiance]

87. I'll wait to see my presidential candidate in action on this Sunday!

When he'll be giving his more rabble rousing speech that evening!

[snowbear]

90. Cali.. c'mon now... which one... WHICH ONE??

You can't leave us hanging like that!! -- which one is your candidate?

I have three and a half favorites, so I'm in the "undecided column"

[cascadiance]

102. If you really need more hints...

Begins with a "G"... Ends with an "E"...

[oasis]

88. "Must pay our teachers" Biden says.

[benny05]

98. Most Dem Pols say that

Even Edwards has said that, but we all know the federal government has no control over salary issues. But the Employee Free Choice Act, the right to bargin without intimidation.

[Jacklyn75]

89. Does anyone know when they will re-air this? I just realized it's on! n/t

[Catchawave]

116. Check out www.cspan.org....

several re-airings tonight...9ish, 10ish, 11ish ?

[Jacklyn75]

120. Thank you! n/t

[Greeby]

93. Da kooch is here!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[oasis]

94. Dennis K. bragging about how he wasn't misled by "george bush".

[LSparkle]

95. Kucinich BRINGING DOWN THE HOUSE!

"Some people were misled by ... George Bush. Well, HERE'S SOMEONE WHO WASN'T!"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[Catchawave]

99. Great comment

He'll move the other candidates further to the left for sure.

Obviously an audience favorite. Kooch always speaks for me, but may be too left for the mainstream?

[oasis]

96. "Stop stealing Iraq's oil" DK says.

[cal04]

97. stop stealing the oil in Iraq

Kucinich, good for you
the audience knew the answer to that

[jannyk]

100. Dennis has won my heart

....not my vote unfortunately, but my heart.

Dennis you are a 'big' man with good ideas....I

:loveya:

[Catchawave]

103. ...and here comes his wrap-up

Go Dennis !

[jannyk]

104. and what a 'wrap' it was - 'NO STRINGS!!!'

[Beaverhausen]

" A president with No Strings!"

that was great!

[Catchawave]

106. ..A president with NO STRINGS, NO STRINGS, NO STRIN......

cut off...up next, Mike Gravel. Nice segway...lol. Audience is tepid, but glad this guy's on my side too :loveya:

[John Q. Citizen]

112. You know what they say....

Follow your heart!

[jannyk]

114. I would*, unfortunately by the time I get to vote

the candidate is already chosen. Though that may change this time if CA gets an earlier primary. I just don't see Dennis making it to the final 'run-off'. Not because he's no good....but because he's too good - if you know what I mean.

*That is.....unless Gore runs.

[John Q. Citizen]

118. That's funny, cause I would support Gore also, if he runs. Here's my

take on the Kucinich candidacy.

We have (now) 3 so called top tier candidates, but they are all basically status quo in terms of political outlook. So they will divvy up that segment of the Dem voters, say 60%of the total cast, and each receive around 20% or so.

If Kucinich can because the consensus progressive (single payer fee for service health care, voted against the war and against funding the war)candidate, then he could manage around 30% of the Dem vote.

That would put him in very good shape going into a brokered convention. Even if he doesn't come out as the nominee, he could throw some serious weight and make some deals to get the best of the rest in, and many platform plank concessions.

So spread the word!

[Greeby]

105. Mike Gravel up nt

[jannyk]

108. OMG! He's a 'crack up'...

at first I thought 'boring old fart' - especially after Kucinich's 'showmanship'. But this guy's a riot!!!

[Catchawave]

110. Very passionate, I liked him too :)

Happy to be a Dem today, these guys and gal made me proud :grouphug:

[mikelgb]

107. NO STRINGS!

GO DENNIS! :yourock:

[Catchawave]

111. Thank you all......great event

Looking forward to more of these :grouphug:

[benny05]

122. Thank you, Catchawave

I think it was a great event all around, reading from the comments here, at Kos and MyDD. Your time to take out and do this liveblogging is much appreciated. :loveya:

:kick:

[helderheid]

113. I had to leave early - will this be repeated?

[Catchawave]

115. 9:06 pm tonight according to the Cspan sched....

here:

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp

[helderheid]

117. excellent! Thanks!

[Pastiche423]

124. Lots of DLC lovers on this thread

Hillary, Richardson, Vilsack and edwards was.

Does not portend well for a Democrat for the people.

Way sad