After watching the Pentagon press conference..I am disgusted.

[w8liftinglady]

The whole spin was to blame the troops,their families for not "Letting us know".."we would have fixed things had we known"
I am angry and need to stop for a minute.

[bryant69]

1. I'd fairly confident that these individuals wnt through official channels

or attempted to and were rebuffed.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Swamp Rat]

2. .

:hug:

[rox63]

3. It's their f*%&ing facility

They should know the state of their own f#$&ing facility. :grr:

[Fresh_Start]

4. Government GOP-style. Its always someone elses fault.

eom

[Solly Mack]

5. I'm still reeling

[babylonsister]

6. But that's standard ops for this admin; they are never at fault, never

apologize, and always blame someone else. I'm not surprised, though it is upsetting. If we had a valid media, they might consider how nonsensical this stance is.
No one knew? Gimme a break... Were there no support staff in these buildings to alert on conditions?

[w8liftinglady]

7. ok..martini and deep breath...i will post a rebuttal in a minute

[IWantAChange]

8. How are they going to blame this on Clinton is the real question...

Republicon BizzaroWorld is spinning out of control IMO.

[speedoo]

9. That is total bullshit. Anyone who has ever been in the military knows it.

EVERYTHING about the military is based on inspections and reports.

I missed the conference. Was Gates involved?

[tridim]

12. Which begs the question, why was building 18 ignored?

Seems to me that it was done on purpose, but why? I think there's much more to the story that hasn't been discovered yet. Could it be a repository for the meth addicted vets we've been hearing about?

[w8liftinglady]

18. oh,hell no-just his bitches...I am so pissed.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

10. There should be NO SPIN where this issue is concerned

Unfortunately, ChimpCo seems to always think that the solution to every problem lies in finding the right political spin. If they could get away with it, they wouldn't do anything or provide any services, as they hate government. When they're cornered like rats, however, the only way out they know is to focus their efforts on finding just the right excuse rather than an actual solution.

[global1]

19. Almost Misread Your Post ....

I thought you were saying ChimpCo seems to always think that the solution to every problem is lies.

[Bjorn Against]

31. I think they believe that as well...

You may have misread, but you have added an important point in the process. A lie is their solution to just about everything.

[Bandit]

11. Tony snow said in press conference that

Bush* has visited wounded soldiers at Walter Reed many times...It would be very hard not to notice the conditions if one were observant at all.

[spanone]

29. Well, bush* also visited Iraq, think he saw the REAL Iraq? Hell no. He saw the fairtytale.

[w8liftinglady]

13. My rebuttal

So-this is the first you lying sacks of shit have heard of the crappy way our troops and their families have been treated?
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/May2004/Berkowitz0524.htm
Suicide Watch: Iraq Reveals Mounting
Mental Health Problems in Our Military
by Bill Berkowitz
www.dissidentvoice.org
May 24, 2004
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=av.SBwoxuDlQ&refer=us
U.S. Veterans Say War, Funding Gap Worsen Health-Care Shortage
August 18, 2005
http://www.dav.org/voters/budget_shortfalls.html
Budget Shortfalls for Veterans Health Care
FY) 2005
http://obama.senate.gov/news/050214-evans_obama_say_bushs_proposed_budget_shortchanges_veterans/index.html
Evans, Obama say Bush's proposed budget shortchanges veterans
Monday, February 14, 2005
http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2006/03/our-veterans-deserve-better.html
Our Veterans deserve better
Wednesday, March 01, 2006
http://www.dav.org/voters/documents/statement_violante_032504.pdf
STATEMENT OF
JOSEPH A. VIOLANTE
NATIONAL LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR
OF THE
DISABLED AMERICAN VETERANS
BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SUBCOMMITTEE ON VA, HUD, AND INDEPENDENT AGENCIES
UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
MARCH 25, 2004
http://www.dav.org/voters/documents/statement_violante_040705.pdf
STATEMENT OF
JOSEPH A. VIOLANTE
NATIONAL LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR
of the
DISABLED AMERICAN VETERANS
before the
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SUBCOMMITTEE ON MILITARY QUALITY OF LIFE AND VETERANS' AFFAIRS
AND RELATED AGENCIES
UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
April 7, 2005
http://www.offthekuff.com/mt/archives/005828.html
July 19, 2005
The continuing funding shortfall for veterans
http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/view/597/
Veterans' Benefits "hurtful" to National Security, says Pentagon
Feb 2005

How can you betray your brothers-in-arms?

[babylonsister]

21. Recommend for w8liftinglady's great links, which deserve their own thread. nt

[w8liftinglady]

24. thanks..I am so pissed,I think I will

[global1]

23. Good Accounting For *Co's Lack Of Support For Our Troops.....

I can't understand why we don't put *Co and the Repugs more on the spot about this when we're in debate in the House or Senate. We're soon going to be debating funding for this so-called war. They say the Dems don't support the troops. Why don't the Dems lay out a better case for how *Co and the Repugs have not supported and don't support the troops. Equipment. Armour. Hospitalization. Housing. etc. etc. etc.

[malaise]

14. If you're disgusted then don't

watch the interview with Weightman on CNN. This is unbelievable.

[w8liftinglady]

17. i can't-is it more of the same?

[w8liftinglady]

15. and let's not forget this tidbit

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/7/3786
GI Denied Health Care After Speaking Out
By Mark Benjamin
United Press International

Tuesday 02 March 2004

Congress, veterans groups, and the press should immediately launch a full investigation into this Operation Iraqi Freedom veteran's allegation he suffered retaliation from the military for speaking with reporters about substandard military healthcare. A series of three UPI articles about this major scandal are posted here. They describe the "squalor" more than 1,000 wounded, ill, or injured service members were forced to endure while on "medical hold." -- Veterans for Common Sense

[EST]

16. Cynicism doesn't even describe it.

I don't know if democratic leadership will be any better or if we have any better chance of influencing them, but this lieing, covering up, and "Oh, I take full responsibility" simply has to stop.

There has to be some damn way that we can truly create a government of, by, and for the people. The Very worst of society seem to be the ones who want power the worst and are willing to do anything to get it.

Perhaps the ones we need most in management and control should have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into the job. Barring that, I am not sure we can ever get the best people in charge, but one thing for fu**ing sure, we don't want or need ever is any form of "conservative republican" in charge of anything having to do with people.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. The greatest skill the military brass has is covering their asses.

Usually by blaming the troops they allegedly love.

[blm]

22. Same old GOP tactic of blaming the messengers.

.

[izzie]

25. And we sure did not hear about the officer golf clubs that were

built in the 9o's when the GOP took over Congress. As a person that has used Bethesda and seen the officer only club that ran around that hospital and knew people who had to man it that always interested me. We know who gets the good deal on this stuff.

[Norquist Nemesis]

26. Bushetals are batting 1000! 9/11, Iraq, Katrina, and now this

It wasn't too long ago that Congress was pissed off because the director of the VA came before them to say he would be going belly up within a month or two because they were using and "old formula" for funding needs. Apparently, it never occurred to them that the demand on Veteran benefits would rise significantly...IN A TIME OF WAR!!! as the Bushies are all wont to say.

[Tatiana]

27. Outpatient servicemen/women had the numbers of their congresscritters posted in their rooms

because some of their congressmen were getting them the help they needed faster than going through VA/military channels.

Dana Priest said this on MSNBC.

It's a sorry, sorry affair.

Bush has completed wrecked every facet of American life and American government.

[Atman]

28. Just part of the plan

This is part of Grover's "drown it in a bathtub" scheme. They WANT Americans to lose faith in the government, and to stop expecting the government to be there for them. That is one of the driving philosophies behind everything BushCo does...get everyone so fed up with government that they'll pay to privatize everything. And who tends to get those privatization contracts? GOP/BushCo supporters, of course.

"Running America Like a Business," remember?

Profit is always the underlying motive for these evil bastards.

.

[lebkuchen]

30. glad I don't get AFN

Blame the victim and do whatever it takes not to assume responsibility is the standard Bush MO.

[struggle4progress]

32. W has gone to Walter Reed more than once for photo ops

Too bad he never really bothered to take a look around