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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:19 PM
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The Republic of Lakotah places liens on all real estate
http://www.republicoflakotah.com/docs/noticeofliens.pdf


Notice to All Foreign Governments and Private Owners of Real Estate within the Republic of Lakotah

TO: The United States of America;
The States of: Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota and Nebraska;
The County and Municipal Governments Operating within the Republic of Lakotah;
and All Private Owners of Real Estate within the Republic of Lakotah

Lakotah, through its government, have appointed representatives to withdraw from all the treaties with the United States of America.

Lakotah, through such representatives, have formally withdrawn from all agreements and treaties with the United States of America. The reinstitution of our freedom and independence is found in law.

Lakotah has reclaimed sovereignty as a nation and over its traditional lands.

-snip-


I think they're going for it!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:21 PM
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1. Where exactly is the Republic of Lakotah?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:22 PM
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3. In patches in five Western states.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:22 PM
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5. The ancestral lands of the Lakota people
A group of Lakota have decided that since the US never honored the treaties they had with the Lakota people, the People wouldn't honor them either.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:21 PM
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26. Here's a map from their website
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 05:22 PM by bananas
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:54 PM
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32. Wow! There goes Nebraska.
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sk8rrobert2 Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:00 PM
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33. That covers Omaha...not a good sign if your a fan of College Baseball
Good luck to the Lakoda Indians they have themselves a third world country in our own backyard's but this is the land of liberty and justice for all. Right. I really hope they can come out of this with a better way of life then what they have now. The odds are stacked against them but I'm pulling for 'em. Gib em hell.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:21 PM
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2. This will soon get very interesting
as property and money gets involved. Hope none of the leaders of the Republic of Lakotah are framed for murder, like Leonard Peltier was.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:22 PM
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4. GOOD FOR THEM! n/t
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:22 PM
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6. It's worth mentioning that this group does not speak for the actual Lakota tribe.
Just want to make the distinction, to avoid confusion. This group is a separatist movement started by Russell Means, among others. The actual tribe has not declared independence or anything like that.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:23 PM
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8. Very good to point this out
as there is controversy between Means' group and the tribal officials.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:24 PM
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10. And, quite a few people on Pine Ridge don't care for Means
And yes, I know people there.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:25 PM
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14. is this the guy who recruited non-native people to become
members of the tribe? I remember reading something within the last year that about that group - seemed very odd.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:33 PM
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19. never mind - can't recall that guy but just read up on means
*interesting* dude.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:28 PM
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17. Yeah, but don't fuck with Chingachgook.


He'll freak your shit.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:22 PM
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7. way to go. Hoka Hey
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:23 PM
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9. Going for prision?
That is where the attention-whoring Means needs to go.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:12 PM
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39. For what reason?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:24 PM
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11. Oh, oh. The USA has entered into about 380 legally binding treaties
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 04:27 PM by SpiralHawk
with various native nations here in the territory spoken of as the United States of America.

But the USA has -- as a point of legal record -- broken or violated every single one of those treaties.

This could get messy.

Does the government of the USA honor its solemnly sworn treaty obligations? Or does the nation act without honor in this matter, and if so is America ready to face the consequences of living without honor?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:38 PM
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20. Not only that. The USBIA owes like a trazillion dollars to the native people.
Gonna get ugly
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:27 PM
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28. Especially if they want to be paid in Euros!
Then it would be about one and a half trazillion dollars!

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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:49 PM
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34. We have no problem
giving Israel their take in euros on demand.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:39 PM
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23. Then it's about bloody time it does.
I claim Mohawk ancestry although it was so long ago they won't claim me. I guess rooting for the first nations when they fight for their rights against Washington must've come through on a gene, the way my reaction to alcohol came through on one from Asia and my inability to tolerate milk might have come from either.

Tribes around here in NM have been producing plenty of lawyers of late, and I hope the Lakota have been doing the same. It will be very interesting to see the gummint tied up in knots by a bunch of smart Lakota lawyers with a history of broken treaties to prove just how much those agreements really meant to those Wasichu in Washington who wrote them in bad faith.

If anything, maybe this will get the desperately poor people huddled together on reservations that would put third world countries to shame a better deal. It will certainly draw much needed attention to their plight.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:24 PM
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12. Umm, wow, I mean, Wow!
I pray this doesn't get messy. There are no doubt farms and rances in those territories that aren't going to just turn over their land.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:25 PM
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13. Does this mean there might actually be a viable democracy
within the borders of the USA?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:38 PM
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21. you so win with that post
perfect
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:42 PM
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25. No. It doesn't mean shit, actually.
This group has no legal authority whatever. They do not speak for the Lakota people.
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Fed_Up_Grammy Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:26 PM
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15. This was done on Cape Cod by the Mashnees about 20 years ago
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:30 PM
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18. AND they should be given tons of cash for all of the indignity and pain they've suffered.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:39 PM
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22. Good luck with that, Mr. Means.
I hope you serve the first "lien" yourself, and that you have the good fortune to be laughed at and subsequently arrested for trespass instead of shot.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:41 PM
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24. yeah!!
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:26 PM
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27. Does This Mean That ....
Does this mean that there will be no Nebraska primary this year?

Isn't Pierre, SD (capital city of SD) in the Lakota nation's territory?

Will South Dakota need to establish a new capital city?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:28 PM
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29. They don't speak for the Lakotan people. The tribe does not recognize that organization n/t
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:40 PM
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30. Are they accepting political refugees? n/t
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:47 PM
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31. This is a .com
Not a .org or a .net. This is not a statement from the Lakotah leaders, or even a document that was approved of by a democratic vote of the Lakotah people. It is only a statement on a .com website. It's about as meaningful as if DemocraticUnderground.com declared that America was hereby going to withdraw from Iraq.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 08:55 PM
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36. Russell Means is a great American Indian activist!
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 08:59 PM by Juniperx
Right? Hmmm... I've agreed with a lot of what he's said, but I've never been able to get tribal status due to lack of stronger lineage... but he recruited "pure" white people... interesting.

I've heard many American Indians quote this though...

"I abhor the term Native American. It is a generic government term used to describe all the indigenous prisoners of the United States. These are the American Samoans, the Micronesians, the Aleutes, the original Hawaiians and the erroneously termed Eskimos, who are actually Upiks and Inupiats. And, of course, the American Indian.

I prefer the term American Indian because I know its origins. The word Indian is an English bastardization of two Spanish words, En Dio, which correctly translated means in with God. As an added distinction the American Indian is the only ethnic group in the United States with the American before our ethnicity." - Russell Means
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:09 PM
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37. And DUers are great American activists.
I'm not commenting on how good or bad of a person Russell Means is. All I'm saying is that, just because he and other American Indians who agree with him say the Lakota Tribe is withdrawing from its treaties with the U.S. doesn't mean that it actually is.
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 08:52 PM
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35. Would that by any chance include the Cheney ranch?
:evilgrin:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:11 PM
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38. I really hate to ask...
...but how many nukes does Lakotah have?

I don't think the Bush administration is going to let this go on indefinitely. This isn't the same thing as the Oyotunji village in South Carolina.
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