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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:14 PM
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So Obama and his HIT squad
have messages all over about Hillary Clinton and her UNPAID stint on the WalMart Board. But I have not once not ever seen one statement by any of the Hit SQUAD that Obama's wife was a member of a board that was a branch of WalMart's business ,,,,,and she got $60,000 dollars a year. Now Hillary was unpaid...gee and Michell Obama got $60,000.

And while we are at it, didn't she really benefit from Obama becoming a senator...she was an employee of a Hospital organization...and a week after Obama had his shoo in as senator, the Hospital promoted her to Vice President and tripled her salary...she was promoted over three other employees, with more experience, more time in the job and better efficiency ratings. So why did Michelle get the nod. Of he employees passed over two were African American and they filed a grievance that she was promoted over them...and that it was only done because her husband was the newly elected senator and they wanted lobbying efforts from her. Which she did do.

And talking about all the ethics of this saint called Obama...his gangster friend got him a $300,000 discount on his million dollar plus home, next door to the gangster....but he continues to dis and slam and bash Hillary because he THINKS she has corporate connections...damn what a two faced asshat.
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DemKR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:15 PM
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1. K&R
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:03 PM
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23. Damn straight, mo fo!!!!!
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:15 PM
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2. They both suck.


:popcorn:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:16 PM
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4. Agreed..... Joining ya.
:popcorn:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:18 PM
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8. I must concur
They both look like rank opportunists.

:popcorn: :popcorn:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:16 PM
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3. thank you for finally starting this OP
now, let's get this to the GP so it can be seen by more people.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:17 PM
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6. Seconded!!!
:)
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:50 PM
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21. we did it
:woohoo:
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:17 PM
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5. Her Practical Experience and Penetrating Judgment ...
... never fail to astound.



- Dave
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:18 PM
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7. got links for your assertions? its a fine example of CHANGE however nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:21 PM
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9. He is just to 'smooth' for me. At times he inspires me-other times. no.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:22 PM
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10. Keep fighting you two, you're just making more room for Johnnie
:bounce:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:26 PM
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12. And Joey.... :-)
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:36 PM
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15. No kidding
....makes a peace-lovin' woman wanna *SMACK* somebody....

;-)
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:25 PM
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11. Do you ever provide any facts on these things or are we just to take
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 07:33 PM by EV_Ares
your word for the details of this.

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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:32 PM
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13. Obama's Wife Director of a company who sold to Wal-Mart -- Wow
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 07:35 PM by EV_Ares
This has got to be the stupidest criticism of a presidential candidate to come along in a week (since Romney's wife gave to Planned Parenthood): Barack Obama is a hypocrite because a company where his wife is a director sells its wares to Wal-Mart.

As a fluent public speaker, independent-minded wife, devoted mother and professional woman, Michelle Obama has been hailed as an invaluable asset to her husband Barack's mission to capture the Democratic 2008 presidential nomination.

Yet, while her style and performance are winning plaudits on the campaign trail, a little-reported business interest of Mrs Obama's has opened her husband up to one of the criticisms that politicians fear most - the taint of hypocrisy.

She is taking a break from her main job, as a well-remunerated Chicago hospital executive, to campaign for her husband. But she has just been re-elected to the board of an Illinois food-processing company, a position she took up two years ago to gain experience of the private sector.

And the biggest customer for the pickles and peppers produced by Treehouse Foods is the retail giant Wal-Mart, the world's largest corporation and the bête noire of American liberals, including Sen Obama, for its employment practices, most notably its refusal to recognise trade unions.

As the Illinois senator prepared to join the presidential fray late last year, he threw his weight behind the union-backed campaign against Wal-Mart. He declared that there was a "moral responsibility to stand up and fight" the company and "force them to examine their own corporate values".
Now I don't know how Treehouse Foods Board of Directors operates, but I doubt that the Board determines where to sell their products and even if it did, selling to Wal-Mart is smart business. I would wager that most of the consumer and food products industry sells to Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer. Not doing so may mean the difference between failure and success. That is called smart business.

Hillary Clinton actually sit on the Wal-Mart Board for over 6 years and had a hand in the policies actually set by Wal-Mart.
http://mattjohnston.blogspot.com/2007/05/obamas-wife-has-connection-to-wal-mart.html
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:33 PM
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14. Hillary Clinton and Wal-Mart: A Love Story
by Jonathan Tasini

Even Wal-Mart, the largest and arguably most powerful corporation in the country, is no match for the triangulation, pandering and obfuscation of Hillary Clinton. With Wal-Mart rating as public enemy number one among many liberals, progressives and just regular voters, Clinton is finding her past ties to Wal-Mart too hot to handle so, presto, over the side the Beast of Bentonville must go.

For those not in the know, Clinton served on Wal-Mart’s board for six years prior to her husband’s run for the presidency. She recently received $5,000 from Wal-Mart. I’ve raised the Wal-Mart relationship repeatedly in my current race against Clinton and it causes deep unease among voters. I believe it speaks to the incumbent’s close ties to abusive corporate power: her large corporate financial contributions, her support for so-called “free trade” (which is simply trade to benefit corporations) and her unwillingness to confront corporate power that denies every American, among other things, universal health insurance.

So, I had to chuckle when I read that Clinton, having never said a bad word about the company in the past, recently said that Wal-Mart should pay more for its workers’ health benefits. And, to boot, she returned the $5,000 she had received from the company. But, when asked what she did about the company’s benefits for workers when she served on the board, she replied, “Well, you know, I, that was a long time ago ... have to remember…”

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t promote an image of being an intelligent woman who has a pile of facts at her fingertips but, at the same time, you suffer a sudden bout of amnesia when asked to answer for your record. And it would be an inconvenient record to defend.

In 1992, Wal-Mart was simply smaller than it is today. But it was still huge, with $43.9 billion in net sales, 1,714 stores and 371,000 employees. Even in 1992, Wal-Mart was already the world’s largest retailer.

And the board Hillary Clinton sat on was rabidly anti-union, was exploiting sweatshop labor around the world, discriminating against women workers, forcing workers to labor off the clock and destroying communities that did not want them. This should not be a shock: Clinton was a partner in the Rose law firm, one of the most active anti-union law firms in the country.

So, the question still remains: what did Hillary Clinton do—or, not do—when she served on the board of Wal-Mart? Maybe, if her memory was refreshed, she could tell us how she protested the company’s relentless union-busting, expressed feminist outrage at the widespread discrimination against women and was horrified that the mushrooming wealth of the Wal-Mart family was made possible on the backs of slave labor around the world.

Her behavior then, when the spotlight was not on and her record did not matter to voters, should tell voters a lot more about her principles and values than the carefully orchestrated image New Yorkers try to figure out now. The voters deserve to know.

For the past 25 years, Jonathan Tasini has been a union leader and organizer, a social activist, and a commentator and writer on work, labor and the economy. From 1990 to April 2003, he served as president of the National Writers Union (United Auto Workers Local 1981) During his tenure, the union tripled in size and became one of the most influential forces in the country for protecting the rights of freelance writers.

© 2006 The Huffington Post

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0207-34.htm
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:37 PM
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16. "...she was promoted over three other employees, with more experience, more time in the job and..."
"...she was promoted over three other employees, with more experience, more time in the job and better efficiency ratings..."

Sounds like her husband wants to follow in her footsteps.




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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:44 PM
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17. wow!
thanks ...:wtf: i knew it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:44 PM
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18. Please
I beg of you.



K&R
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:45 PM
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19. lol........
:rofl:
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:25 PM
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29. AARGH!
There went my appetite! :puke:
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:48 PM
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20. Don't candidate groupie posts belong in GD Politics?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:01 PM
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22. You're almost there! JOURNAL here we come!!!!!!!!11111!!!
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:03 PM
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24. The next step is posting in GD:P
then journal.

Baby steps Forkboy. Baby steps.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:41 PM
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25. I think links are needed when Democrats are criticized here.
You've asserted several facts - can you back them up?

Here is a link that shows Michelle Obama resigned from a board of a Wal-Mart SUPPLIER - I don't see any evidence here that this company was "a branch of Wal-Mart's business." Wal-Mart is well known for exerting pressure on suppliers (e.g., to cut costs) but if this company isn't owned by WM, I don't think your statement would be fair.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/05/michelle_obama_.html

So, please provide the links if you can. Thanks.

(disclaimer: I'm an Edwards supporter.)
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:44 PM
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26. Don't hold your breath
I've never seen Bitwit1234 answer a direct question.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:49 PM
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27. Bitwit never answers period, never supports any of the garbage posted
which it is because almost is never true or factual.

Just like this stuff.

Obama's wife as one of my posts showed worked for a company not connected with Wal-mart other than a business customer. She would have no control over what Wal-mart did or did not do. It would be like General Motors buying parts from another company.

Hillary was actually on the Wal-mart board and certainly had a hand in their policies.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:50 PM
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28. Here is an AP article that is rather different from the OP.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:33 PM
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30. If I may offer some advice...
...it is best to have the facts on your side and avoid using terms like hit squad if you are trying to move people over to your point of view. If you support a candidate, and look bad doing it, you hurt your candidate.
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