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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:10 PM
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Screen grabs of gun and man
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 04:09 PM by warrior1
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:14 PM
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1. Thanks for grabbing those! I'm sure CNN will pull that video since the facts don't fit the story
they're now spewing for the regime.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:27 PM
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9. It's all over the planet
so let CNN pull it.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:16 PM
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2. Well done. Everyone capable of downloading the video, please do so.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:16 PM
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3. DO you have any other screen shots to place the gunmen images in context

For example, where is Benazir Bhutto in relation to the shooter?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:18 PM
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5. here's the video:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:21 PM
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6. Thanks --- I see the big picture now.


Very sad for Benazir Bhutto.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:17 PM
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4. let me see if I can find it.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:21 PM
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7. She out of range in the video, just out of range.
the camera then pans away from the blast. They caught the killer and gun in that shot, but not Bhutto. It looked like he was stepping down after the shot.
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College Liberal Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:25 PM
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8. I know
I was hoping to get some sure clue as to whether she was hit or not....
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:29 PM
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10. The best I could do.
She behind the sign. The killer about 2-3 feet away.

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:32 PM
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11. Is this the Zapruder tape?
The conspiracy theorists will get creative in the next few days. I don't think the claim that CNN is in on it with the Pakistani army will hold up though.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:40 PM
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12. This is wrong. The circle labeled "man" is not the shooter
if you watch the video the gun comes up out of the crowd. That man is behind Bhutto's vehicle pushing on it or leaning on it.

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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:45 PM
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14. I can't see what you saying
The light circle from the grab is from the video. Maybe I'm assuming the gun is in his hand. I don't see anyone else.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:46 PM
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16. Watch the video, the still is hard to see.
In the video, you can see the gun come up three times FROM the CROWD.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:45 PM
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15. You are right. If you watch the video, you can see the gun come up
out of the crowd for each of the three shots. It wasn't her guy. It was someone wearing a suit in the crowd.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:48 PM
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18. Can you grab a shot of that?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:54 PM
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19. I don't know how to do that, but,
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2007/12/28/vo.bhutto.gun.ptv

Watch it here. Watch it a couple times, and pause it right before the shots. You can clearly see the suit wearing gunman's arm come up from the crowd.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:41 PM
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13. Photo of gunman on the grassy knoll




Ah, yes. It's all so clear now.



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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:48 PM
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17. You circled the wrong hand.
Look to the lower right of the circle, in the second shot.

look at what would be 3:30-4:00 on a clock and see the arm with a white sleeve and a dark jacket, that is the gunman. In the vid. you see that arm w/gun come up three times.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:57 PM
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20. I see it
Not the man behind. Let's see if I can grab it.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:01 PM
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21. Is this it?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:02 PM
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22. YES!!! That is the gunman!
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:08 PM
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23. I'll delete the other grabs
thanks
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:05 PM
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24. I have watched it a few more times, and...
I think there were two guns fired. The suited arm fired the first and third shots.

Another arm with another gun fired the middle shot. This gun is just above the first one. What do you think?
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