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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 01:43 PM
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HILLARY UP UP UP IN IOWA POLLS
Goodness HIllary with a little over a week to go before the election, is up 35 to 19 over Obama in the polls. But Edwards is 20....he and Obama are in a statistical dead heat.....No wonder we haven't seen any of the bragging about Obama and his polls, I guess tho the bashing of Hillary will start to be more than overwhelming tomorrow.

http://politicalticker.blogs.con.com
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 01:45 PM
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1. OOOps correct link
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 01:47 PM
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2. how many times will hillarians plant this bullshit?
ARG is a group that posts shit without actually doing the polling. a two person operation, one of whom has close ties to Hillary, and hates Obama.

but, go ahead, The more you folks post this garbage, the more egg on your face you will have on January 14th. Or was it January 3d? Exactly on what date did Hillary invite her supporters to caucus, again?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 01:49 PM
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4. Jan. 3rd. is when the Iowa Primary is... n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 01:50 PM
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6. It's Christmas Day. Let it go.
lol

:)
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 01:56 PM
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8. shouldn't the original poster C&D?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 01:58 PM
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10. Is that even legal?!
:rofl:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 01:59 PM
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11. OMG, I just realized what I wrote.
LOL!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 01:53 PM
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7. Read it an weep.
:cry:
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 02:41 PM
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19. really. i hadn't heard. somehow i must have missed these other threads
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 07:27 PM
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27. "Bush gives purse, gets biking gear for Christmas?" n/t
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 01:48 PM
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3. Which polls? The national polls, which are meaningless at this point?
That same CNN article also said this:

"But the Democratic race looks very different in the early states.

Four Iowa caucus polls average out to a slight Obama lead over Clinton. In fact, it's a very close three-way race in Iowa — Obama 30, Clinton 28, Edwards 22. Any of them could win. And the four latest New Hampshire polls show Clinton narrowly ahead of Obama. Two polls show Clinton leading, one shows Obama slightly ahead, one shows a tie in New Hampshire. Again, anything could happen.

Clinton's frontrunner status looks shaky in those key early voting states."
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 01:50 PM
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5. what nonsense
that's one poll and it isn't in line with the others. There's no fucking way to know how Iowa will turn out. Clinton could come in first or she could come in fourth and even if she comes in second, I'll remind you of your endless "she's gonna win" mantra.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 01:57 PM
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9. How many times are you going to post this? Good DUers check...
...for duplicates. And they never, ever create duplicates intentionally.

Tsk-tsk.

NGU.


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 02:02 PM
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12. Merry Christmas, you curmudgeon.
lol



:hug:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 04:22 PM
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20. And the same to you, Scrooge!
:loveya:

NGU.


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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 02:04 PM
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13. SINCE THIS IS NOT BULLSHIT WHY DON'T YOU GO TO CNN
and read the fact that the same polltaker that gave Obama a tie with Hillary a week ago is the ONE WHO TOOK THIS POLL.

When they gave Obama the lead it wasn't bullshit, but when this, same polltaker, gives Hillary the lead the same American Idolers jumping humpings who touted Obama now say the poll taker is giving out bullshit.

YOU IDOLERS CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. ....
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 02:05 PM
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14. OW! MY EAR!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 02:08 PM
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16. Good Point....
A good DU'er would indeed would of already done that.....


My-O'My....a lump of coal for that one.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 02:20 PM
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17. Look at your computer keyboard. On the left side there will be a key
labeled "caps lock." If you use that key too much people will think you are having some sort of, um, episode. Please don't scream at us.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 07:08 PM
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26. all this demonstrates is that the polltaker is out of control
doesn't know a proper reliable sample from first base.

collective opinion of that many people does not change that fast. the wild swing in results means it is all crap.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 02:07 PM
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15. The people she works for must be pleased.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 02:25 PM
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18. Your people are funny.
Paraphrasing last week's GDP:

"Obama leads in Iowa"
-"The frontrunner never wins Iowa. Go Hillary!"

This week's GDP:
"Hillary Leads in Iowa."
-"Hillary is gonna win Iowa! Go Hillary!"


:shrug:



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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 04:31 PM
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21. We'll be here all week! Try the veal!
lol
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 06:34 PM
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22. If you quote 1(one) poll multiple times, can you then refer to it in the plural? n/t
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 06:36 PM
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23. Evidently, which is what has happened with the two dozen threads on this ONE poll. n/t
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 06:39 PM
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24. Awesome. Hillary or Obama. I'm cool with either of them. n/t
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 07:03 PM
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25. self-delete
Edited on Tue Dec-25-07 07:04 PM by gristy
wrong thread LOL
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:06 AM
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28. "Idolers?" Do you mean "idolaters?"
You're not exactly shy in the cheerleading dept yourself. How many times have you posted about this same poll? It's a small sample and caucuses do not work like primaries. The only "poll" for Iowa I'll credit is the one that will be completed Jan 3.

Why do some people get all gaga about politicians, carrying on like cheerleaders at the homecoming game with a crush on the homecoming king or queen? The candidates are politicians which means they're not saints or saviors. And then when they're in office, the cheerleaders are eventually shocked, shocked to discover that they're just politicians with feet of clay who wheel and deal, compromise and make decisions not always for the noblest of reasons.

On the campaign trail politicians are selling themselves like a product, seeking power over us. They'll tell us what they think we want to hear to close the deal. Let the buyer beware. Don't ooh and ahh over them like they're babies who just said their first words, while politely ignoring that bad smell coming from their nappies. Shine a bright light on 'em, grill 'em, hold their feet to the fire. If they won't give straight answers to straight questions, dodge and weave, spin like a top, well....there's your answer. And if they can't take the heat of public scrutiny, they should get the hell out of the kitchen. Because this ain't a game; it's literally a matter of life and death.

CNN can't be bothered to post a link to the ARG poll but here it is anyway: http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres08/iadem8-715.html Don't see your asserted "fact" there that you cite from a secondary source. Check primary sources.
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