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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:50 PM
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Hungary may legalize porn involving 14- to 17-year-olds for home use
Hungary may legalize porn involving 14- to 17-year-olds for home use

BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) — A bill modifying Hungary's penal code could allow pornographic material involving 14- to 17-year-olds to be made and kept for personal use.

The Justice Ministry said the draft proposal, presented last month by Hungarian Justice Minister Jozsef Petretei, was in line with European Union norms which give members states the right to regulate the issue at national level.

But Opposition lawmakers attacked the proposal as "legalized pedophilia" and a family welfare group described it as "the waiting room of prostitution."

Petretei said Monday that the proposal had taken into account the age in Hungary — 14 — at which consensual sexual relations are allowed.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-19-hungary-porn_x.htm

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:53 PM
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1. I predict a lot of GOP fact-finding missions to Budapest
Especially by mega-church pastors
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:55 PM
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2. And I predict...that your prediction will be proven correct.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:01 PM
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4. PREDICKSHUN
And I predict that your Prediction of the prediction will come true...................
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:10 PM
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8. Just think of all the money for Repug Tours.... that could be made.
:rofl:

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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:35 PM
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14. Will Rush be joining along in these flights?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:38 PM
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17. He'll have to up his prescription for Viagra first.
:evilgrin: :hide:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:59 PM
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3. .
:puke:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:02 PM
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5. Why, why, why?
They select 18 year olds now because they look like 14 year olds, and now they'll select 14 year olds because they look like 11 year olds. This is just giving pedophiles a legitimate way to fuel their obsessions.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:06 PM
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6. good thing the cold war is over!
now that we got them thur commies outta there we don't have to pay fair wages (heck any wages0, healthcare, or education and we can sell all their kids to porno rings! They should be greatful though. They are FREE now!:sarcasm:
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:07 PM
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7. Well, I have mixed feelings about this
because I do believe that it will be a boon for new commercial child porn sources, even though that will remain illegal.

However, an 18 and 17yo married couple should be able to take private pictures for their personal use without the fear of prosecution.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:37 PM
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16. As long as they keep it off the internet and out of sight of anyone else.
That's where people run into problems.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:10 PM
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9. Time for an embargo, sanctions...
Ugh...

:puke:
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:14 PM
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10. What this means is a sharp increase of arrests for child porn in other places.
Be careful what porn sites you visit in the near future, folks. If you can see the picture, it's on your hard drive.

I'm not sure what I think about Hungary's age of consent. I wouldn't want any of the 14 year olds I've met involved in the porn industry, sexually active among their peers or not. I certainly don't want adults taking advantage of them, and the thought of it mostly sickens me. It'll be scary to see what happens.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:22 PM
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13. Agreed
and Hungary's age of consent is 14.

This law doesn't actually legalize commercial porn involving 14yos, but it would make it harder to prosecute and provides legitimacy to it.

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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:20 PM
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11. This just in .....




Headline .... Neil Bush appointed ambassador to Hungary, film at eleven.

:sarcasm:






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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:21 PM
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12. ROFL!
so sad, so realistic....so funny. :rofl:
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:36 PM
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15. That's fucked up. nt
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:54 PM
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18. Sick
sick sick
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:57 PM
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19. Sex sick!
sick sick sick!

I believe in Christ. *drools* duhhh!!!!!

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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:16 PM
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20. Sex aint sick
I love sex, I don't have a problem with youth in their later teens having sex. I just don't think some perv should exploit minors to make a buck.

Are you insinuating that because I think that legalizing porn for 14-17 year olds is sick makes me a Christian or am anti sex? I sure hope not.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:45 PM
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21. Hungary is superfreaky.

I haven't traveled much, but the sexuality of Hungarians was amazing compared to CZ, Austria, Germany, and even Parisians.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:51 PM
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22. This is a terrible idea, I think
I mean, think of all the parents now who try to get their kids into acting so they can exploit them and live off them.

Now picture if these parents had an attractive young daughter...
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:03 PM
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23. Oh, EWW! Please, for the love of God, NO!
14-17 year olds are stupid idiots, and Lord knows they sleep around A LOT, but I don't want anything involving porn with them legalized.
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Amused Musings Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:08 PM
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24. My God I saw some fucked up things in Hungary NT
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:21 PM
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25. That`s just fucking great.
:sarcasm:
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:23 PM
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26. This has got to be a violation of several EU Regs...
Can't they step in?
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:31 PM
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28. it most likely is in violation
but the continent has a big problem with trafficked women from Eastern Europe working in brothels that are *legal* and a blind eye is turned by the powers that be, I can't imagine a crackdown on pornography involving 14-17 year olds will ensue any time soon.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:25 PM
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27. It is wrong, terribly wrong, BUT
it most certainly is not pedophilia and I wish we could stop blurring that damn line.

On the other hand every time I bring this simple, accurate, and scientific fact up I get shouted down by the hysterical.

But keeping my mouth shut about stupidity and the dangers of every changing definitions just is not in my nature so here we go again.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:32 PM
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29. Ephebophilia?


True, the pre- and post-pubescent line is significant.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:42 PM
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31. I once managed to find the correct term
And that may be it but I will be damned if I am going to type into a search engine, "sexual attraction to 15 year olds" :-)

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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:55 PM
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33. Fortunately, due to the nature of my job, I have explicit permission to look up such things.

;-)
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:25 PM
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36. I agree
I don't have a problem with youthful sexual exploits. I do have a problem if some scumbag is videotaping it and making a buck. But to call it pedophilia is to not know it's definition.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:32 PM
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30. That's fucked up
I hope the law doesn't pass. They can put all the caveats in it they want but it's still a dangerous piece of legislation.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:44 PM
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32. Just because Jerry Lee Lewis legally married a 13-year-old...
...doesn't necessarily mean that the rest of the world is interested in seeing her "business."
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:57 PM
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34. ...but will Hungary allow explicit photos of lameduck-on-terrorist action?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 04:00 PM
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35. Kinda Makes Sense In Its Own Way.
If their age of sexual consent is 14, then I see no reason why this also shouldn't be legal there.

I think the greater issue is whether or not 14 is appropriate as an age of consent, but I guess that's a different debate.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:36 PM
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37. Some posters on this thread need to learn how to read.
Petretei said Monday that the proposal had taken into account the age in Hungary — 14 — at which consensual sexual relations are allowed.

Recently in Florida, two 16-year-olds were convicted of possessing and distributing child pornography. The "porn" in question was pictures the two of them took together. The "distribution" in question was the girl e-mailing the pictures to the boy. There was no question that the sex was consensual, and that it was legal for them to have sex; however, they are now "sex offenders" for the rest of their lives for taking pictures of it.

This law eliminates that absolutely ridiculous "gotcha."
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