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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:40 AM
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Need some LTTE help responding to "Liberalism is a mental disorder"
This is what I'm responding to:

Not A Clever Comeback

Out of boredom, mind you, I’ve been reading some of the more liberal comments in Speak Out regarding politics. These comments, written out of emotion, ignorance or spite, truly convince me that modern liberalism truly is a mental disorder. And, I’m not writing that as some sort of attempt at a clever come back.



I'm thinking of something along the lines of reality having a liberal bias. Any other ideas? I'm kind of having writer's block this morning.

If anybody else wants to respond themselves, it is anonymous. You just need to put in an eastern CT location (Vernon, Manchester, Glastonbury, Enfield, and East Hartford are among the larger towns)

http://remindernewspapers.com/speakout/speakout.htm
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:41 AM
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1. You could simply point out figures for support of the war
and suggest that if this dillhole believes that that percentage of people are mentally unstable, well, perhaps he's out of it himself.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:42 AM
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2. This claim originates with Michael Savage
case closed
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:40 PM
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22. ...Whose real name is Michael Weiner.
:rofl:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:51 PM
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23. Wouldn't that be a mental disorder?
Compulsive lying? About your own name?
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:43 AM
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3. I wouldn't dignify that with a response myself
but if you want to go ahead.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:21 PM
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17. I've found if you don't respond
These kind of things fester and grow.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:46 AM
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4. You might explain that TROLLS pretend to be liberals in order to

post outrageous statements to make liberals look bad.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:53 AM
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12. "We need to find Osama and give him a HUG!"
like that?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:02 PM
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15. I read this column week after week
There really has been nothing outrageous from a Democratic/progressive/liberal perspective. The only controversial thing was about a month back, somebody thanked Hugo Chavez for his oil program, which generated a bunch of responses calling Chavez a mass murderer, the most evil dictator since Atilla the Hun, and a Castro-loving Commie.


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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:46 AM
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5. ask if public education, weekends off, safe food, clean air, and social security are results of
mental illness, and if so, which of these has the poster taken advantage of?
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:48 AM
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6. There's always this...
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:50 AM
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7. Not exactly what you are looking for but
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ConservativeDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:51 AM
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8. Why bother?
Seriously, this guy's letter is so deep in self-parody, he's really only doing damage to the GOP cause.

You can tell what the editor's think by the title they put on the letter: "Not a clever comeback". Squint, and you realize they're using this guy's own words to skewer himself.

Before you write any LTE, you always need to ask yourself "What am I attempting to accomplish?" You're not going to convince anyone who actually agrees with this bozo, so it's pointless. The best letters are usually those that involve a local topic or candidate, where you have room to convince people.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:51 AM
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9. It is just another ad hominem very general attack.
It is a little subtle, but in fact it attacks people who are liberal, and in very vague language dismisses them as being "crazy." That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But that is all it is. An emotional opinion. It is not an argument based on any facts.

The author read "some of the more liberal comments . . . regarding politics." He describes them as "written out of emotion, ignorance or spite" and based on his subjective opinion of the motivation of the writers of the "liberal comments" that all of "modern liberalism" is a "mental disorder." This statement has no substance whatsoever. You could substitute the word "conservative" for the word "liberal" and the word "Free Republic" for "Speak Out" and no one would know the difference. The statement is so general as to be meaningless.

That is why you can't respond to it. There is nothing to respond to really. It is just blather -- foaming at the mouth. Just don't take it seriously. There is a lot of that kind of emotional release on DU. It's OK. Just pay it no mind.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:53 AM
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10. Explain that Coultergeist is neither a psychiatrist nor a psychologist
but he/she needs to get some help from a qualified professional.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:53 AM
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11. Psychology Today
(I think it was) ran an lenghty article saying in essence that conservatism was a mental disorder. I used to have it bookmarked, but if you google you can probably find it, as if that would make a difference to the shades-of-gray-challenged right wing.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:54 AM
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13. Google for the Nazi depictions of Jews prior to WW2.
Die Juden sind unser ungluck.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:56 AM
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14. One of the most famous Liberals ever was Jesus Christ
Depending on the person to whom you're replying that can be a nice angle to work from.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:06 PM
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16. Yep
All those "liberal" bromides about loving one's enemy, praying for those who persecute you, lending expecting nothing in return. I mean, Jesus Christ*! The guy was some kind of pinko, if you ask me.

*In the interjection sense, not the person named in the gospels sense.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:27 PM
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18. Try Isaiah 32-8
There is a poster here with that as their sig line and it praises Liberalism
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:21 PM
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24. Which version?
The noble person has noble thoughts and perseveres in noble things
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:08 AM
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27. I believe King James version but not positive
:shrug:
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:28 PM
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19. .
Edited on Tue Feb-20-07 12:29 PM by Hav
The reason why you have problems finding an appropriate response is that this is some really stupid and baseless comment. The person who wrote that doesn't argue by providing useful points for a discussion. His own words couldn't describe his letter better: "These comments, written out of emotion, ignorance or spite".

You can't debate that person as this person doesn't offer anything for any kind of discussion at all. The best solution would probably be to ignore that person as "trolls" are only looking for trouble, they want the attention and nothing angers them more when they get ignored.
So relax, forget the idiot and don't waste your time by getting in a discussion with him. As another poster pointed out, the title alone ('Not a Clever Comeback') is enough to make him look like an idiot.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:33 PM
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20. and I bet this same person
will say at other times that psychology is a made up science (aka "battered woman syndrome" is fictional") kind of like Bill O'leilly's take on that kidnapped teenager. :eyes:
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:34 PM
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21. If liberalism is a mental disorder...
Edited on Tue Feb-20-07 12:35 PM by roamer65
then conservatism is a mental disease. That's how I'd fight it. Fire with fire.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:28 PM
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25. "....emotion, ignorance or spite,"
And Cheney telling Daschle "go fuck yourself" on the floor of the US Senate is epitome of logic and maturity?

Refusing to be in the same room as people with whom you have political disagreements?

Taking the same actions again and again and again, but expecting different results?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:30 PM
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26. There's a precedent for equating political opposition with mental illness.
Joseph Stalin.

Let that fuckwit chew on THAT.
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 12:10 PM
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28. One of the things that I learned about leadership...
...is that failure is ALWAYS a failure of leadership.

So... ...last week I was reading part 2 of 'On the psychology of military incompetence' at the link below. It looks like they found a foreign language edition online and translated it back into english. The translation is horrible but I still could get the gist of it. You could make a pretty good arguement from reading it that conservatism is a mental illness.



On the psychology of military incompetence link:
http://www.geocities.com/militaryincompetence/
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