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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:56 PM
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Sorry Hillary
Bill's comment re GHWB was the last straw. Enough of this fugging dynasty.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:01 PM
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1. That is some sorry shit.
:wtf:

Why would anyone want Poppy on their foreign policy team?

:puke: :puke: :puke:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:02 PM
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3. I missed that, seriously? Why would anyone want this?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:26 PM
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23. I think LBJ said (about Wallace, IIRC...)
"I'd rather have him inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in."

That's the best I can guess, unless these people actually believe GHWB is a redeemable person, which seems absurd to me.
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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #23
30. It was about J. Edgar Hoover
FBI transvestite who knew where all the bodies were buried.

Not that there's anything wrong with that
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. Mind blowing and GH
rejected the not so subtle condemnation of his oh so perfect son. This is damn madness.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:02 PM
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2. What dynasty, ducky?
You mean that tired, nasty meme which is the only way for true creeps to say they don't want a woman in the White House by pretending it's only THIS woman...because her husband was once president and he isn't rude to the people who are and used to be president? That's the reason Hillary shouldn't be president? She isn't a blood relation to ANY of them.

Gosh, how many ways can you try and tie her to Bush?

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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:04 PM
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5. Yeah
Because everyone knows how easy it will be to control Hillary once she's President.

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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:31 PM
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8. Um... you really have no idea what you're talking about.
Your tired, nasty meme is as tired and nasty as the one you complain about.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:39 PM
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9. For the record, it was her husband, not some DUer, who tied her to Bush
Senator Clinton is an asset to the party and has successfully used her experience in and connections to her husband's presidency to run a very effective and well disciplined campaign. Kudos to her. But if she can't win over more Democrats given all those advantages, she may not be our best nominee. You don't have to attack a fellow DUer for pointing out that it's her own top supporter who's advertising her closeness with the Bush family.

That's going to bother some Democrats. I'm surprised Mr. Clinton didn't understand that better.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:44 PM
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11. "true creeps" is putting it mildly. They are a trite, predictable and tiresome lot
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. Yes, the Hillary fanatics are.
Especially those who link to or support such sites as "Hillaryis44".
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:17 PM
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16. I must add their comprehension skills are atrocious
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:52 AM
Response to Reply #16
53. Your debate and discussion skills are atrocious.
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 06:54 AM by TheWatcher
Not that you are capable of intelligent debate.

Just a sad, petulant little child who only knows how to insult and attack.

Come to think of it, if I were as small and irrelevant as you, I'd probably have an attitude problem as well.

Now, I shall await the inevitable childish response.

Try to use big words, so you at least LOOK intelligent. (I'm so proud of you for actually learning comprehension and atrocious, by the way. Sigh. They just grow up SO fast.)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #53
77. ...
:thumbsup:
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #11
52. I take it back. YOU win the Pot....Kettle Post of the year.
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 07:08 AM by TheWatcher
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:20 PM
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22. Ahem


Yeah, it's because I'm sexist. Sure. Uh huh.

Or maybe I'm sick of the "She's inevitable. Give in" hard sell. The sense of entitlement, as if it's hers for the grabbing.

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:35 PM
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24. Yeah, cause if you don't support hillary, you must be a sexist.
:eyes:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:38 AM
Response to Reply #24
40. I guess I'm sexist then.
Because I'm not buying any of what Hillary Clinton's selling.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 03:47 AM
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48. Yep
It's funny as hell isn't it.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:55 AM
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33. Did you support Carol Mosely Braun in the '04 primaries?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:16 AM
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46. Pfft. You should try selling that somewhere else, because no one's buying it here.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:49 PM
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75. seconded. nt
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:04 PM
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4. And she is being stuffed down our throat
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 08:05 PM by bonito
It's getting interesting as we approach the primaries, things could go any way depending who's running out there with a whole lot of angry democratic and independent voters, as well as republican voters.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:40 PM
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10. Actually, no. She's got a LOT of support among real Democrats.
I don't support her, but I don't question the sincerity or the loyalty of those who do.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:37 PM
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18. Real Democrats? I don't think so
But as loose marbles will roll down hill I agree.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #18
72. I certainly am a real liberal and Progressive
Although I am not a Democrat, I'm a member of the DSA. I don't have to prove my liberal cred to anyone here.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:45 AM
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62. In New Hampshire, her support comes from the DLC Democrats.
In New Hampshire, her support comes from the DLC Democrats.

Much of the state party machinery (the high mucky-mucks)
is behind her, but I don't see much supporty from the troops
on the ground who actually do the work. You know, the people
who make the phone calls, walk the wards, and the like.

We all tend to be behind somebody else.

Well, after January 8th, it'll all be history. And with
just a little luck, so will Hillary.

Tesha
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:47 PM
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12. She's been stuffed down everyone's throat since ...
the Sunday after the 2004 election. All I've heard from right wing pundits since then have said time and again 'Hillary is the nominee'. When will Democrats wake up and see the major Republican money is behind Hillary as the nominee because they know she will never be elected for President in 2008. When and if she's the nominee, the tide will turn. And it will get ugly, mark my words.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:52 PM
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19. Is your mouth wide open. ?
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:16 PM
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21. Well actually, I have an advantage
:puke:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:40 AM
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41. The more people get to know Hillary -
the more they love Edwards and Obama. She can't obfuscate forever. Eventually people figure it out.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:14 PM
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7. As Many Supporters She Might Be Gaining By Humanizing Herself With Her Daughter and Mother.....
she is losing the same and more as people are beginning to see the tactics being used in her campaign and the spilling of the mouth by Bill.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. Not true. 80% of dems love Bill. She isn't losing any voters
because of him. The Clinton Haters just talk out of their asses as usual
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:59 PM
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14. But not many Dems love the Bushes. Except maybe you and the Clintons.
What, you seriously don't remember the last time a Bush influenced US foreign policy?

Sounds like you've got a memory problem.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:18 PM
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:15 PM
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20. Well now, there is a shit pile of foolish useless assumptions


:scared: :nuke: :scared: :nuke:
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:56 PM
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25. Sorry, the inclusion of GHWB in foreig affairs is......
Unacceptable. You really can't offer any justification for such a thing, can you? If you think you can I would LOVE to hear it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:26 AM
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #14
70. nice pwnage dude
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #13
31. The poster above you was presenting an opinion. Perhaps you could refute it
without the insults. Or did you think Hillary had votes to burn, and so your conduct means little?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:51 AM
Response to Reply #31
32. You know that's never going to happen.
I don't think this person KNOWS how to post
without being insulting. I've certainly not
seen them do it.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:12 AM
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35. back attcha
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #35
38. I believe the response you are looking for is
"I know you are, but what am I?"

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:24 AM
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39. *SNARK*
:spray: :spray: :rofl: :rofl:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 10:11 PM
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78. It's like watching a cat play with a mouse
A bitter, retarded mouse, but a mouse nonetheless. :rofl:
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:02 AM
Response to Reply #35
59. What are you, a third grader?
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 07:11 AM by TheWatcher
What are you going to do next, kick sand in everyone's faces? Threaten to tell your Mommy?

Does it not embarrass or bother you in the least that you don't even have the mental capacity to respond intelligently without some childish insult or half-witted attempt at snarkiness?

Well, I take that back. Since you lack the mental capacity for intelligent discussion, I suppose it would be quite impossible for you to be aware of your shortcomings in order to be embarrassed.

I suppose ignorance truly is bliss.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the happiest person in the world.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:59 AM
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58. "80% of dems love Bill. "
Do you actually have a source for that nonsense, or did you just pull it out of your ass, like usual.

I sincerely hope it didn't leave any marks on your head on it's way out.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:45 AM
Response to Reply #7
42. Hillary has a sincerity problem.
Using your family as a "tactic" is not cool.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:29 AM
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27. Hell, it got worse when Bush smacked him down and said no way..
The team-up was bad enough but to then be smacked down by your supposed teammate... Ouch! Guess Bill and Hill thought they were "in" and GHWB put them back in their place. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Clinton home tonight..
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:32 AM
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28. So unbelievably clueless. I wish you were a fly too
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:40 AM
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29. Pardon me?
Maybe you should fill me in since I seem to be so clueless.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:05 AM
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34. Waiting...
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 01:07 AM by walldude
Well, let me guess... I'm really a misogynist and don't want a woman president, and since I'm not for Obama either that makes me a racist too huh..

Or is it.. um.. "Bill being Bill" and they really have no intention of having anything to do with Bush once she gets into office, this is just a put on, like laughing and joking around on Fox news.

Or am I just one of those "Hillary haters?

Well then I bow to your superior wit and skill and admit that Bill Clinton announcing that one of Hillary's first priorities will be to send him and GHWB on a campaign to let the world know that "America is open for business", and then having GHWB say "uh, no I'm not doing any such thing" is actually a brilliant campaign strategy, and I'm just too clueless to see it.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:16 AM
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36. Be patient.
DU is a big place; it takes time to insult absolutely everyone.
But Libby's working on it.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:17 AM
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37. Doing a damn fine job too... n/t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #34
44. I am also apparently a misogynist.
Because I don't want this woman as president.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:04 AM
Response to Reply #28
60. So you could do WHAT, exactly?
Fill your diaper and run away?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #28
71. here, lemme get you a bigger shovel, you can dig the hole quicker that way...
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:47 AM
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43. Which home?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:14 AM
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45. Oh, BTW: K&R nm
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:31 AM
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47. "I remember when DUers were overwhelmingly AGAINST the BFEE"
For those who haven't seen it, Bongo Prophet's thread in GD Politics is a wonderful companion piece to your thread:

Bongo Prophet (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-18-07 01:21 AM
Original message
I remember when DUers were overwhelmingly
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3856092





:kick: and recommended.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 03:49 AM
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50. Thanks for this link n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 03:48 AM
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49. I'm sure you were supporting her 48 hours ago.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:42 AM
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51. Absolutely. She is completely off my list. n/t
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:54 AM
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54. The anti-Hillary people need to be reminded that normal people don't share their strange distemper.
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 06:54 AM by Perry Logan
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:57 AM
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56. And normal people embrace criminals like GWHB. n/t
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:05 AM
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61. Or perhaps it is that you need to be reminded that those who don't favor Hillary
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 07:13 AM by TheWatcher
Pity your delusion.

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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:56 AM
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55. Amazing the defense that Poppy got from HRC supporters.
I guess the last laugh was on them when Poppy publicly turned Bill down in a most humiliating fashion.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:58 AM
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57. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!
Expect the deafening sound of silence.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:16 AM
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64. Who's defending Poppy?
I haven't seen any defenses of Poppy anywhere. And I've read all these threads.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:41 AM
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65. You obviously missed a slew.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:49 AM
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66. That's not a defense of Poppy.
That's a defense of Clinton's partnership with Poppy in the specific realm of fundraising for charity. Nowhere is an excuse of Poppy's crimes, or previous actions in any way, nor is it defending Poppy as a person. Keep trying.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:58 AM
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68. That was just the first thread that came to mind.
There were plenty to choose from. If you didn't see the touting of Poppy the Humanitarian on the boards yesterday, then all I can say is, lucky you.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:49 PM
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74. Exactly
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #55
73. Who defended Bush I?
Not me. Not other real HRC supporters on this board.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:50 AM
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63. I'll join in with that
put me in the have to hold my nose to vote for her category if somehow she wins the nom. this is disgusting, gwhb should be treated as he really is and it starts with a t followed by an r and I think you know the rest. He is no American, never was it seems.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:50 AM
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67. yea, let's keep the compromised CIA in the white house for four more years
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:08 PM
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69. There is no "dynasty"
Secondly, are you eligible to vote in US elections? Your profile says Jamaica.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:46 PM
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76. only on DU..
would some attempt at a bipartisan message get all these pages of posts in the last few days...
Oh wait... I remember, it's Obama who wants to work with the other side and stop all the bickering.
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