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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:19 PM
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Dem strategist: MoveOn to blame for Lieberman endorsing McCain
The Raw Story
12/17/07

The liberal activist group MoveOn.org is to blame for Sen. Joe Lieberman's (I-CT) backing of John McCain for president, according to one Democratic strategist who says the endorsement could have significant primary implications for Democratic contenders in New Hampshire.

In a Monday appearance on Fox News, longtime Democratic operative Bob Beckel said that MoveOn's successful push to see Lieberman defeated in his 2006 primary race was now coming back to bite Democrats.

"This is the price...us Democrats pay for MoveOn.org and others who drove Joe Lieberman out of the party," said Beckel. "They campaigned against him actively and raised money against him and he was beaten in the Democratic primary. ... now we're paying the price and all I can say is 'a pox on their house."

Many blogs have criticized Beckel, a former campaign manager for Walter Mondale and Robert F. Kennedy, since he began making regular appearances on Fox over the summer.

"Did Beckel pass up the opportunity to score points for what is supposed to be his own party because he 'didn't get it' or because he had a sincere desire to dis Biden or in order to curry favor with the conservatives at FOX News?" wrote the left-leaning News Hounds after one appearance, in which the strategist had agreed with Fox hosts that Democratic Senator Joe Biden and others "get a little bit more room" when it comes to minority support.

more:

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Fox_pundit_blames_MoveOn_for_Lieberman_1217.html


Fox DINO's Bruce and Beckel are great examples of "former Dems" swimming in the sewage with Faux News. Beckel's assertion that MoveOn.org is to blame for Lieberman's exit from the Democratic party is a classic example of bait and switch. The only one to blame for Lieberman's war mongering hypocritical self is Lieberman; and we all know the sooner we can say good riddance the better.

This story is a fine example of rightie tactics. They drag 2 theoretical Dems across the screen who are whining about losing poor Joe, and yet both are asshats who have fully indulged their belly with rethug kool-aid.

At least Bruce and Beckel are very transparent. They are just as irrelevant as Lieberman!:mad:



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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:20 PM
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1. of course none of the dem candidates want Lieberman's endorsement
and Lieberman left our party long ago.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:49 PM
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23. And when we add to our majority in the Senate next year...
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 02:51 PM by RiverStone
LIEberman can formally become a rethug and we can be done with him forever.

Actually, I don't think the pukes want him either.

Joe will be put out to pasture by everybody...nobody likes a hypocrite.

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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:22 PM
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2. As member of MoveOn, I just want to say
We will come after ALL DINO's and hopefully take back the Democratic Party from corporatists, war-mongers, and enablers.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:22 PM
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3. I mean, really, who gives a shit who Lieberman endorses?
I don't think it's going to make much of a difference with few Dems and Repubs either, for that matter.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:23 PM
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4. what absurdity
Anyone who was going to be swayed to vote for McCain by Lieberman's endorsement wasn't going to vote for any of the Democratic candidates anyway.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:24 PM
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5. These guys assume...
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:25 PM by TwoSparkles
...that Lieberman being out of the Dem party is a bad thing.

No one misses his droopy, warmongering jowls.

These guys assume that an endorsement from Lieberman is some coveted prize.

An endorsement from Lieberman is like getting an endorsement from Richard Perle.

Who wants that?

I suppose when SpongeBob endorses a Republican, these bozos will blame
Moveon.Org for alienating fictitious underwater sea life.

:eyes:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:24 PM
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6. No Dem candidate with half a brain would hire Beckel
So he has to whore himself out on fixed noise to make money. There are a few other idiots like that woman who ran the Dukakis campaign that do the same thing. They're all a fuckin joke.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:25 PM
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7. Wah!


POGESSIVES IS HAVING PO'ITIKAL VOICES NOW! MAKE HOLY JOE GO BE 'PUBBICAN! IS NOT FAIR!
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:34 PM
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20. the Dirty Hippies beed MEAN TO ME!
This is rather sad.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:25 PM
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8. So tired of the attacks on Move On and now by Democrats joining in.
Former Dem Ops who aren't in high demand and can't get over it...so they feed at the Murdock trough.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:48 PM
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13. No, Faux want their rightie viewers to think they are Dems...
I don't see any Dems at all?

I agree with the comments upthread, who gives a shit about who Loserman endorses. And yet, this story does reveal the type of strategy the righties love to employ. They want people to believe the Dems are eating their own.

This is nothing more then the wacko attack machine, but we need to keep this bullshit on the radar. We need to remind people that this bullshit is not news and not true.

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:13 PM
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15. I don't understand
how they miss the point that regular people make up move on. With numbers is strength and are regular people not supposed to organize so they have more clout. Is it ok for corporations to lobby but regular people are supposed to shut up?
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:26 PM
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9. Beckel proves that if one spends 24 hours inside the beltway,
one's mind is fucked forever. He is as dumb as a bag of rocks, but he ain't alone. Today seems like take a piece of shit to work with you day in the DU and almost every place. Check out the liberal columnists in the WaPo, Cohen and Dionne. Pure bullshit.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:40 PM
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10. There probably is some truth to this.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:42 PM
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11. who cares about lieberman or mccain. they have made themselves insignificant
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:48 PM
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12. ahhh po widdle conservative Dem is scared of Big Powerful Move On
wha???



They're falling for their own spin.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:54 PM
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14. Okay, lemme get this straight...
Joe was beaten, BY THE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS, in the CT primary. MoveOn supported another DEMOCRATIC candidate, who won.

Joe decided he'd run as an Independent in the general, against the Democratic nominee, and somehow this is MoveOn's fault.

Ooooookay.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:33 PM
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19. the truly hilarious part
is that conservative Dems have been telling the left for years that the only way to change the party is by running primary challengers. Someone did and now those same conservative Dems don't like that either. Imagine that...
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:24 PM
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16.  Lieberman betrayed us
And continues to do so. It is ridiculous to berate us for his shortcomings. All we did was take notice.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:29 PM
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17. Bob Beckel sure knows a whole lot of nothing.
This unfounded criticism of moveon rests upon two pretty serious flaws;
- The notion that a Joe Lieberman endorsement is something of value.
- The notion that John McCain reaps any benefit from such an endorsement.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:31 PM
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18. wanker.
I want to be a Dem strategist when I grow up. Sounds like a cushy job, whining all day about those mean progressives...
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:41 PM
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21. What price does Beckel think we're paying? Dems don't want him and
despite LIEberman continuing to say he's a Democrat, no one on our side particularly wants to claim him.

I thought LIEberman sounded more like a "candidate scorned" than a McCain endorser with his answer that none of the Dems had asked for his endorsement.

As much as I wish Gore had been our president, we surely dodged a bullet with LIEberman not being VP.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:43 PM
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22. To BLAME? It sounds like an achievement to me.
lol
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