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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 06:40 PM
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Clinton Campaign Surrogate Bob Kerrey: OBAMA = MUSLIM, HUSSEIN, MADRASSA, -- Clinton Won't Apologize
Edited on Mon Dec-17-07 07:16 PM by Dems Will Win

CLINTON SURROGATE KERREY LATEST TO TRY TO TIE CHRISTIAN OBAMA TO ISLAM -- HAS NOT APOLOGIZED YET

It's WORD ASSOCIATION TIME again. Let's see, Hillary says now the Fun Part starts, then there's Obama's fictitious Kindergarten ambitions by campaign Press Release, the circulated e-mail accusing him of being a "radical Muslim" by a Clinton County Chair in Iowa, the drug-dealing suggestion by Billy Shaheen, NH co-Chair, and now THIS, from Bob Kerrey, just after endorsing Hillary:

It's probably not something that appeals to him, but I like the fact that his name is Barack Hussein Obama, and that his father was a Muslim and that his paternal grandmother is a Muslim. There's a billion people on the planet that are Muslims, and I think that experience is a big deal.



THEN on CNN with Wolf Blitzer, Kerrey just brought up that Obama went to a "secular Madrassa", -he just had to drop the word Madrassa, and thinks adding secular makes it OK. The Clinton campaign is getting hit again -- don't they realize these dirty politics smears are backfiring? They must think it's working!

Articles are already criticizing Kerrey:

Kerrey Off: His "Barack Hussein Obama" Remark in Press Stirs Criticism



By E&P Staff
Published: December 17, 2007 4:40 PM ET

NEW YORK The big 2008 campaign kerfuffle today concerns remarks by former Sen. Bob Kerrey in endorsing Sen. Hillary Clinton yesterday.

After delivering his prepared remarks in Iowa, he was asked by a reporter (from the Omaha World-Herald, according to some sources) about Barack Obama. He said, "It's probably not something that appeals to him, but I like the fact that his name is Barack Hussein Obama, and that his father was a Muslim and that his paternal grandmother is a Muslim. There's a billion people on the planet that are Muslims, and I think that experience is a big deal."

After the Washington Post and ABC News and others carried these remarks far and wide, some campaign watchers on the Web charged that Kerrey was only the latest Clinton backer to stab Obama -- this time with the word "Muslim" instead of "cocaine."

Kerrey replied that his words were only meant in praise for Obama's potential to communicate abroad. Critics came back with: Why, then, the use of his middle name "Hussein," a favorite game of the far-right?


http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003686443

KERREY'S PRAISE OF BARACK A BIG O-BOMBO


By GEOFF EARLE

December 17, 2007 -- NEW SCHOOL President and former US Sen. Bob Kerrey just couldn't help himself from applauding Barack Obama after endorsing Hillary Rodham Clinton in Iowa yesterday - until he gave a left-handed compliment that almost sounded like it was cooked up in Clinton's headquarters.

"I like the fact that his name is Barack Hussein Obama, and that his father was a Muslim and that his paternal grandmother is a Muslim," Kerrey told The Washington Post.

"There's a billion people on the planet that are Muslims, and I think that experience is a big deal."

Obama brought reporters along just hours earlier as he attended church services in Iowa yesterday, hoping to dispel false Internet rumors that he is a Muslim.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12172007/news/nationalnews/kerreys_praise_of_barack_a_big_o_bombo_445748.htm


Hillary Clinton will never apologize for this one. I predict she will say, it's all true, it was a compliment! I'm sure Mark Penn slipped in "that experience" line too. That's Obama's big experience -- he's a Muslim!


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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 06:43 PM
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1. Is Obama's middle name Hussein?
Was his father Muslim?

This travesty is right up there with the people who claimed that Hillary killed Vince Foster.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 06:49 PM
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4. This is what irks me
Whether Kerrey was really complimenting isn't the issue.

The issue is apparently that if you speak about Obama's life --it's an attack.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:03 PM
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8. Kerrey specifically mentioned that it was a secular school, of course.
So, for one to accept that Kerrey meant ill, one must also assume that he made the statement hoping that it would be misinterpreted.

Possible, I suppose, but that seems to be a bit of a stretch.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:13 PM
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9. Many would only hear the word Madrassa and never know the difference between secular and radical
Edited on Mon Dec-17-07 07:13 PM by Dems Will Win
they just hear the inflammatory word MADRASSA.

This Madrassa bungle could be Hillary's "Maccaca" Moment...
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:22 PM
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10. So, should we be accurate or should we play to the ignorant?
Edited on Mon Dec-17-07 07:24 PM by TwilightZone
Madrassah is the Arabic word for any type of school. Obama went to a school in an Arabic country, so he did indeed attend a madrassah, in his case a secular one.

I understand that you (and many) believe that the word is an inflammatory one, but it does happen to be accurate.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrasah

Edit: Nice edit of your OP title, by the way.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:36 PM
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11. Edit: Nice edit of your OP title, by the way. JUST IN TIME, TOO!
Oh by the way, here's what the Clinton Campaign Jones County Chair in Iowa Judy Rose emailed out:

THIS DEFINITELY WARRANTS LOOKING INTO. THIS COUNTRY WAS
> FOUNDED, “ONE NATION UNDER GOD”. ALMIGHTY GOD, NOT THE GOD OF THE
> KURAN.

>
> We checked this out on ” snopes.com”. It is factual.
> Check for yourself.
>
> Who is Barack Obama?
>
> Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein
> Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a
> black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST
> from W ichita, Kansas.
>
> Obama’s parents met at the University of Hawaii. When
> Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to
> Kenya. His
> mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from
> Indonesia.

When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to
> Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two
> years in a Catholic school.
>
> Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a
> Muslim. He is quick to point out that, “He was once a Muslim, but that
> he also
> attended Catholic school.”
>
> Obama’s political handlers are attempting to make it
> appear that Obama’s introduction to Islam came via his father, and that
> this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama
> returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct
> influence over
> his son’s education.
>
> Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama’s mother, Ann
> Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi
> school in Jakarta.
>
> Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the
> Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.
> Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking Major
> public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the
> United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.
> ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he
> DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Kuran (Their
> equevelancy to our Bible, but very different beliefs)
>
> Let us all remain alert concerning Obama’s expected
> presidential candidacy.
>
> The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US
> from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level
> - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!!
>
> Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this
> man leading our country?…… NOT ME!!!



I think they are trying to associate Obama with being a Muslim here too. Just a coincidence maybe.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:41 PM
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12. Every candidate has ignorant, stupid supporters.
Hillary is not an exception.

If we held each of our candidates responsible for everything every one of their supporters said, we'd have to disqualify them all.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 11:49 PM
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18. kick
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 08:47 PM
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16. Gees...the clinton campaign 1st was interested in kindergarten....now this!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 06:45 PM
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2. That's pretty low....and very high-risk for the Clinton camp.
That kind of B.S. will agitate black voters.....and that will sink any potential Democratic nominee.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 06:49 PM
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6. The use of the middle name is the favorite of the right wing. Plus it's incorrect, his name is
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 06:47 PM
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3. What a dirty trick.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 06:49 PM
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5. The Clintonites know exactly what they are doing
and why they are doing it.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:00 PM
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7. I don't think the campaign is going to back off this time either
All of these things are true, and they will say Kerrey has nothing to apologize for and let the press repeat the words Hussein, Muslim, Madrassa for the next week.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ONE BACK OR APOLOGIZE IN ANY WAY I PREDICT!
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:42 PM
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13. If you listen, Bob Kerrey meant this in a good way.
There should be no apologies. Politcal Correctness is going to
destroy this party.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:50 PM
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14. What he did is use a so-called WEASEL WORD
Weasel Word

A weasel word is used to avoid making a straightforward statement. Weasel words are also used to deceive, distract, or manipulate an audience. For example, the statement 'up to 50% off on all our products' is attractive because it displays the highest decrease in price one may find at a certain store; however, it doesn't specify how many products are even on sale.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 08:05 PM
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15. yep
Pretty sneaky, Bob.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 08:56 PM
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17. Here is an article about Obama's church....more liberal than Hillary's by the way!
"Presidential hopeful Barack Obama belongs to the United Church of Christ, one of the country's most racially diverse and liberal Protestant denominations -- the first to ordain an openly gay minister and to call for equal marriage rights for all people, regardless of gender.

The UCC prides itself as being "out front" on social justice issues, battling civil rights, women's rights and gay rights ahead of the mainstream. One Sunday hymnal equally celebrates male and female images of God".

http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/437415,CST-NWS-obama21.article

Contrast that to Hillary's membership in the secretive conservative Christian organization called the Fellowship.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

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