RIGHT-WING POLITICAL CORRECTNESS FORBIDS YOU TO THINK OF HER A "SECURITY GUARD"

[kentuck]

http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2007/12/right-wing-political-correctness.html

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Jeanne Assam is an ex-police officer. She's one of a number of members of New Life Church in Colorado Springs who provide security; those who are licensed to carry weapons, including Assam, do so. Confronted with Matthew Murray, who'd already killed four people and was heavily armed, she took her responsibilities seriously, bravely confronted the gunman, and killed him before he could kill again.

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In the case of the Colorado Springs incident, the female "guard" who shot the gunman was a former Minneapolis police officer (in the early '90s) but a volunteer church security person who also had a license to carry a weapon. Because of the shooting earlier at another church property in Arvada, she'd suggested that the church beef up security at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs.

... one armed church member, trained and prepared to use her weapon, ended it before it really got started.

That's how you stop a psychopath.

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And there you have it: We're not allowed to think of her as a "guard," even though she used to be a cop and was acting as a guard. We have to think of her as "one armed church member, trained and prepared to use her weapon," because that's the way this story becomes a conservatively correct legend.

[sam sarrha]

1. "that is how you stop a psychopath" ..Be Careful..DHLS COULD TAKE THAT AS A THREAT TO THE PRESIDENT.

:hide:

[blondeatlast]

2. God-fearing, trained to kill, and damn--not half-bad looking, either.

The perfect Bushbot, in other words.

:puke:

[rurallib]

3. Two questions come to mind

1) Why is she and EX police officer? Could be an innocent reason, could be something serious.
2) Why should a Christian Church need armed guards to begin with? Shouldn't a religion of peace not need such a person?

[atreides1]

4. Two Answers

1) Is it really important? By the way according to records she was fired for not being truthful.
2) Just because it's a "Christian" church, doesn't mean it advocates the teachings of Christ.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

17. Come on...

1) No
2) Because there was a shooting at a missionary camp earlier that day..

[Marrah_G]

6. About question # 2

Would you ask the same about a Mosque or a Temple? The guards were there because of perceived outside threats so it would no go against their teachings.

[rurallib]

23. Yes - I find that posting of armed guards at any religious site

to be a real anomoly.

[jmg257]

9. 2) Apparently they do. Luckily someone was worrying about real-world safety that day.

People at churches are as likely a target as anywhere else. Maybe more so what with religion-bent terrorism, and dangerous attitudes like "it's church - so I am safe".

1) Does it matter? It was a good shoot. She did great!

[Mountainman]

5. Why can't some people take this incident on face value? She saved lives by the means she had

available yet some people still need to make something bad about this. I think that shows a real insecurity on the part of people who want to attack her.

[blondeatlast]

7. That's why the RRR attempt to use Frank Luntz's invention of PC

is so despicable.

[DangerDave921]

8. thoughtful

Nice comment. I agree. I think this brave woman did a great thing, and she saved a number of innocent lives. I don't see why some on here feel the need to insult her, question her background, and/or defame the Christian church.

Anyone care to explain?

[Der Blaue Engel]

12. The OP is about the framing of the thing, not insulting her at all

And there you have it: We're not allowed to think of her as a "guard," even though she used to be a cop and was acting as a guard. We have to think of her as "one armed church member, trained and prepared to use her weapon," because that's the way this story becomes a conservatively correct legend.

We should all be carrying weapons, don't you see? Especially churchgoers.

Where's the insult to the guard? (Other than from the RW framing for using her in this way?)

[DangerDave921]

18. OK

I wasn't just responding to the OP.

As for the OP, how are you (or anyone else) "not allowed to think of her as a guard?" You can think whatever you want about her. I've heard the story on the news a number of times as a security guard shot and killed the gunman, not just a random churchgoer.

Hint: Guns are not a RW only issue. There are plenty of Dems who support gun rights, and who believe that an armed guard on the premises prevented loss of life.

And yes, I am getting a tone on here of people criticizing this woman.

[Gormy Cuss]

10. The point of the OP is not attacking her, it's attacking the spin.

She's trained to use a weapon and trained to use it under stress as a former cop and quite frankly, if anyone's got a concealed weapon near me I hope it's someone with that much training. Problem is that the reality of having a highly trained security guard be the one who responded doesn't further the argument that every citizen, even church-going blondes, should pack heat just in case a mad gunman is lurking.

[kentuck]

11. Exactly.

It is this type of right-wing thinking and Democratic naivete that has got us into Iraq. We'll just blow them all to hell! We'll turn that place to glass! It is the acceptance to the right-wing PC that article is attempting to point out. To go along with that, that we need the right to carry guns everywhere, is the storyline that is being pushed and some naive souls right here on the sophisticated and intelligent Democratic Underground is willing to go along with their little scheme. God help me Jesus!

[dmallind]

16. That much training?

You mean 40 hrs god knows how many years ago in the academy and twice yearly requalifications shooting 20 rounds or less? Have you any idea how much most shooters likely to go through the expense and red tape of CCW applications practice? It's a damn sight more than that.

[Gormy Cuss]

22. Yes, I mean like more than Vermont and more like any state where

previous law enforcement experience on its own qualifies the applicant as exemption from most of the otherwise mandatory gun safety courses.

[Mountainman]

24. No one is making the argument that everyone carry a gun. That is the need by some here to take this

tragic incident and use it to push their particular political point of view. That is wrong. A person went crazy and started shooting people, one of the people shot back and saved others from the fate of getting shot. No need to get on a soap box and use this for your own purpose.

[Gormy Cuss]

25. Sorry, but if you read the link in the OP, some are already spinning it that way.

That is, some ARE getting on the soap box and using it as a good example of how Jill Average Citizen Slays the Bad Guy. I agree that no one should be getting on a soap box with it, but it's happening.

[Tejas]

14. because private citizen w/gun = BAAAAAAD

Except for the genuine questions about guns in a house of worship, many questions/statements here in GD concerning the religion angle are just that, an angle. An angle used as a wedge to insert sentiments in opposition of private gun ownership.

Notice how the suicide angle is trumpeted by the not only the MSM, but also by those here that if you notice, have a negative opinion on guns in the hands of citizens.


"He committed suicide, she contributed nothing therefore didn't need a gun to begin with!"

"Guns in a church, just doesn't sound right!"

"What was she doing with a gun? Is that legal?"



Those underlying sentiments are almost blatant in some threads/posts here, and there's a reason.
They're simple and easy to use.







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[TCJ70]

13. I've only ever seen her referred to as a security guard.

Do you have any other actual evidence of this not being the case?

[Tejas]

19. it's the innuendos added by MSM reports +

posters on this board that get piled on, they attempt to negate her as simply a "security guard".

When compared to the info published about her vs the murderer's, it becomes all the more apparent. We've heard tons of: "used to be a cop", "got fired for lying", "did she have permission", "lost by arbitration" etc etc etc etc................

These can seen as "disqualifiers" (innuendos) for even thinking of her as qualified to be called a security guard, much less thinking that she even contributed one iota to the good guys column that day.

The MSM might sprinkle the label "security guard" in their articles, but they don't mean it.

;)

[kentuck]

20. This morning's Gazette editorial...

How long before she becomes the poster child for the NRA? Why should we let them turn a heroic deed into a politically correct crusade? It's going to happen.

http://www.gazette.com/opinion/many_30791___article.html/armed_people.html

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

15. Its an accurate description

"one armed church member, trained and prepared to use her weapon,"

How is this incorrect? She was not a paid guard she volunteered because of her *training* and *preparedness* to use it in the defense of her fellow church goers.. Guards are identifiable by either uniform or position its obvious when you walk into a bank who a guard is. Guards are also paid professionals..

This is not a RW LW issue, many progressive folks believe in Gun ownership

[Iggo]

21. How anyone hired to guard people's security...

...can be anything other than honored by being called a Security Guard is beyond me.

Maybe the republic party thinks Security Guard is a McJob or something.

(I guess it's not really beyond me then, is it?):eyes: