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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:20 AM
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What's The Answer To Steroid Doping In Sports? Is There A Solution?
Or is there just too much money involved now?

It seems so unfair to athletes who play by the rules.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:21 AM
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1. Different leagues
for different doses/drugs?
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:22 AM
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2. pregame urine testing on the 50-yard line, homeplate, center ice...whatever
it can become like the National Anthem, a prelim to all the games.....fill the cup then "play ball"
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:24 AM
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3. allow it.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:24 AM
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4. Banned from playing for one year and immediate contract termination
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:27 AM
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5. Depends what you want the outcome to be.
Option 1: Mandatory monthly testing. Fines for the first positive, suspension for the second, banning for the third. Fans in every major sport will be disappointed that records are rarely ever broken anymore, and performance across the board seems to be lesser.

Option 2: Stop all testing. Let 'em go nuts.

Next question is, where do you stop? Steroids are illegal without a script. If a player can weasel a script, is it okay? What about other performance enhancing substances that are legal? Yet-banned prohormones? Creatine?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:48 AM
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8. yeah knowing where to stop is a big one
As you kow, I've used both prohormones and creatine before. (creatine still, when I actually lift) I even used furanone when it was legal. I know I was interested in supplements when I was competing, but I also knew that taking something like andro, while it was legal for competition, at some point it would not be. It's all a fine line. And I was also thinking that even with a script and under doctor's care what levels of test to epitest will they allow? Assuming a guy isn't masking, because he would have no reason to, do you just let him roid himself up to any level he wants, simply because he has a script? Any way you go it opens up questions.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:06 AM
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15. 'Zactly.
IMO, the only reason steroids aren't allowed, so to speak, in sports is due to their illegality. So, if a player gets a script for test and GH from a wellness clinic, is it then okay like it would be for any other American?

What if something like Superdrol works for you. It's legal, but it can register a false positive. What then?

Then the question that needs to be asked is it cheating because it's illegal, or is it cheating because it's enhancement? I currently take creatine methyl ester malate, di-creatine malate and a nitric oxide supplement when I hit the gym. Am I cheating? Would an NFL player be cheating?

I don't think that this will ever be solved.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:31 AM
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6. nothing all that satisfactory
fans will never watch some sports that are totally clean. Baseball, good luck, 'roids brought that sport back. Anything that is timed and measured? That would be a tough sell. When the games start getting slower, hits not as hard, people tune out. We've grown accustomed to superhuman feats. On the flip-side athletes are destroying themselves, so something has to be done. Steroids under a doctor's care, with extensive blood work and regular check ups have a minimal risk to them. But in legalizing them is that a slippery slope? Will guys continue to bypass the doctors and abuse? Not sure. It's a tough situation all around.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:48 AM
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9. And even if legal, SOME sports docs will likely overprescribe
if asked.

You are coreect as well in that fans won't watch some "clean" sports. Football and baseball will be severely impacted if totally clean, basketball not so much although I'm sure there's some abuse in it as well. It's just that speed and athleticism are more important in BB so abuse is not usually conducive to better performance.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:54 AM
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11. I think overprescribing will definitely come up
so much money involved, all that revenue at stake. There is something to be said for the suspense of the game, you know, like coming down to the final batter, full count etc. Historically, that carried alot of these sports through,but nowadays, we're too used to seeing tape measured homeruns etc. Or imagine if you strt seeing linebackers and lineman shrinking in size. Football wouldn't be the same. Not to some people.

The breaking of records is a big issue, as flvegan said in another post. Interest wanes when record breaking performances disappear.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:51 AM
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10. That's the sad truth, just like if colleges were to enforce
true academic standards, in the big conferences, the NCAA would disappear off the sports pages. Also as long you are getting paid major bucks for being faster, higher and stronger, athletes will find a way to cheat.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:08 AM
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17. not only that, but they'll get exploited
What's a young college or pro athlete going to think when scouts and agents are telling him he can't make a team or get a certain amount of money unless he runs a certain time, or puts on another 25 pounds of solid muscle? Owners and coaches and even Universities tacitly approve of this by holding specific expectations of players. In the end, those players are the ones who get old before they are in their mid-30s etc. That's rough.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:43 AM
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7. Keep on hand blood from each player.
Before the game drain the blood from the players and give them the stored uncontaminated blood.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:54 AM
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12. Outlaw sports.
Make all football games illegal - even community touch football. Convert baseball diamonds and stadiums to compost sites. The only sport that should be allowed is full-contact chess.
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:58 AM
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13. surprise testing before any game
let it be known that they don't know where or when or whom. When caught.....done with playing.....forever.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:00 AM
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14. Arnold Schwarzenegger built a career out steriods - why no focus on him?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:08 AM
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16. They were legal when he took them in his bodybuilding career.
He took them under a doctor's care.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:13 AM
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18. Create a separate league where steroid use is legal.
It's not like there isn't a market for more sports, and steroids aren't going away until performance and profits are no longer related, which will likely be never.
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 12:33 PM
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19. Stop paying-
attention to them.
buying tickets.
watching them on TV.
for pay for view.

Ignore them and dry up the money and sports might return to something honorable.
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