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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 10:57 PM
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NASA Scientist -- The Arctic is Screaming!!!
Edited on Tue Dec-11-07 10:59 PM by whereismyparty
An already relentless melting of the Arctic greatly accelerated this summer, a warning sign that some scientists worry could mean global warming has passed an ominous tipping point. One even speculated that summer sea ice would be gone in five years.

Greenland's ice sheet melted nearly 19 billion tons more than the previous high mark, and the volume of Arctic sea ice at summer's end was half what it was just four years earlier, according to new NASA satellite data obtained by The Associated Press.

"The Arctic is screaming," said Mark Serreze, senior scientist at the government's snow and ice data center in Boulder, Colorado.

Just last year, two top scientists surprised their colleagues by projecting that the Arctic sea ice was melting so rapidly that it could disappear entirely by the summer of 2040.

This week, after reviewing his own new data, NASA climate scientist Jay Zwally said: "At this rate, the Arctic Ocean could be nearly ice-free at the end of summer by 2012, much faster than previous predictions..."

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...Melting of sea ice and Greenland's ice sheets also alarms scientists because they become part of a troubling spiral.

White sea ice reflects about 80 percent of the sun's heat off Earth, NASA's Zwally said. When there is no sea ice, about 90 percent of the heat goes into the ocean which then warms everything else up. Warmer oceans then lead to more melting.

"That feedback is the key to why the models predict that the Arctic warming is going to be faster," Zwally said. "It's getting even worse than the models predicted."

NASA scientist James Hansen, the lone-wolf researcher often called the godfather of global warming, on Thursday will tell scientists and others at a meeting of researchers in San Francisco that in some ways Earth has hit one of his so-called tipping points, based on Greenland melt data.

"We have passed that and some other tipping points in the way that I will define them," Hansen said in an e-mail. "We have not passed a point of no return. We can still roll things back in time -- but it is going to require a quick turn in direction."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/12/11/arctic.melt.ap/index.html
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 10:59 PM
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1. Holy crap. I'm going to have beach front property.
:scared:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:00 PM
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3. or worse-I am....
and I'm in central Ohio.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:04 PM
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6. I'm three blocks from the ocean. And I worry about the millions of birds
who winter here.

:(
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 10:59 PM
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2. which is exactly why IMPEACHMENT NEEDS TO START IMMEDIATELY, NOT WAIT!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:00 PM
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4. I wonder if this happened on Mars?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:05 PM
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7. Like this?
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/mars_water_000620.html



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=420833&in_page_id=1770



WATER on Mars.

Not ice.

WATER.

Above 32 degrees F, 0 degrees C.

Was it originally ice, now melted? Did Frosty the Snowman go on vacation? Or was it always water, and global warming hasn't affected Mars at all?

Lots of questions. And I need a drink of water too... :beer:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:20 PM
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9. I'm sure the distance would have a say in it.
Suddenly I'm thirsty too! Need a drink of water...
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:02 PM
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5. Kinda makes me happy that I'm 1200' above sea level here :)
Manhattan is going to be screwed, tho.....and we can pretty much write off the entire Florida peninsula.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:06 PM
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8. at 1325' here, may get to see the great valleys be ocean again
Sacramento and San Joaquin valleys were once an inland sea. Perhaps they will be again someday. (Mind you, I am not looking forwards to that.)
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