Shocker! House votes 372 - 9 to recognize the importance of Christianity & Christmas.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

A statement that was much needed and will undoubtedly make America safer and more appreciative of one particular religion. No doubt similar recognition will be extended to all other religions, sects, philosophies and thoughts.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll1143.xml

The 9 naysayers:

Ackerman
Clarke
DeGette
Hastings (FL)
Lee
McDermott
Scott (VA)
Stark
Woolsey

** Thanks to slipslidinaway who posted this on the original thread.

[mike_c]

1. unbelievable-- I'm speechless....

What do you get when you combine the worst presidential administration ever with the most self-serving congress ever?

2007

[flvegan]

2. Santa/Frosty '08!!!!!!!!!

Fuck global warming, dis is global chillin'!

[sarcasmo]

75. Flying Spaghetti Monster in 08 needs no running mate.

[MountainLaurel]

3. Christ on a cracker

Do these idiots have nothing better to do?

[Cha]

63. It seems not..we're living

in 1984 and I wanna know how to bust out!

[BuyingThyme]

4. Woolsey and Lee never disappoint.

[Evergreen Emerald]

5. why would they do that?

[spoony]

58. Maybe they read DU

[AX10]

6. The congress is highly overpaid if this is all they have time for.

:eyes:

[Ishoutandscream2]

7. Hear that? It's the sound of the reality based world laughing

I hate to say this, but I'm glad my RAF friend moved back to the UK. He'd be laughing his ass off and giving me all kinds of grief. Jeez, so embarrassing.

[stellanoir]

8. and this issue require precedence. . .why. . .?

ROPMA = Religion of Peace My Ass.

[hfojvt]

70. Why does it require precedence on DU?

There has been much wailing and gnashing of teeth about it. Meanwhile I just read that Bush vetoed another SCHIP bill. Crikey. I did not even know that Congress had passed another SCHIP bill, and apparently without a veto-proof majority.

[varkam]

9. Can you audibly roll your eyes?

I think I just did.

[midnight]

10. As a Christian I would have prefered that a vote to bring home

our brothers and sisters in harm way would have been an act that showed more chrisitanity, and for God's sake let's bring them home for Christmas.

[RiverStone]

11. Now are they going to vote on the importance of...

Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Taoism, Shintō, Pagan, Native American, Wicca, etc....

[barbtries]

51. yea right

and never mind the constitutionally mandated separation of church and state...remember that was CHURCH and state, not MOSQUE and state, not SHRINE and state, not SHUL and state....

well that ought to keep them busy and free of doing anything useful at least until christ's birthday...not that there's a single one with balls enough to show this bill up for what it is, a pandering to the religious political right. and more democrats than republicans voted for it.

[noamnety]

12. Thank goodness they got this in.

With all we heard about them not having time for things like impeachment hearings, I was afraid the really important business might not get done.

[mmonk]

20. Yep. Now I understand why there is no time for impeachment.

It would upstage the very important business of pandering to the religious right and other brain stem humans.

[kath]

67. That's right, they're way, way, WAAAAY too busy for impeachment.

Jeebus H. Christ on a Trailer Hitch.

[HughMoran]

13. Hey, something the Block & Blame Republicans can agree on

Congress is a stupid, stupid place right now. No more Republicans - ever!

[tomg]

14. Damn you, Bill O'Reilly!

We've lost yet another battle in The War on Christmas.

[zippy890]

74. really- just when I thought we'd won

:rofl:

[spirit of wine]

15. Watch now-- Opposite Effect Will Soon Occur

I would have been voting with the naysayers.

Anything that needs to be recognized as important that cannot stand on its own merit will fail more so by this legislation, and people wonder why religion is becoming a dead zone in America. Forced thought will soon become extinct, along with the supreme being of whatever choice people make others construct out of fear. Dead is dead.

[terisan]

16. I think it is an indication that the rabid brand of christianity is fading . Unfortunately I think

it may try to go out with a bang rather than a whimper.

The essential christianity-love, peace, understanding, and forgiveness will endure.

[wuushew]

17. Co-sponsors

Mr. KING of Iowa (for himself, Mr. AKIN, Mrs. BACHMANN, Mr. BAKER, Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina, Mr. BISHOP of Utah, Mr. BOOZMAN, Mr. BRADY of Texas, Mr. BROUN of Georgia, Mr. BROWN of South Carolina, Mr. BURTON of Indiana, Mr. CARTER, Mr. CONAWAY, Mr. DAVID DAVIS of Tennessee, Mr. DOOLITTLE, Mr. FEENEY, Mr. FORTENBERRY, Ms. FOXX, Mr. FRANKS of Arizona, Mr. GINGREY, Mr. GOHMERT, Mr. HAYES, Mr. HERGER, Mr. ISSA, Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas, Mr. JONES of North Carolina, Mr. JORDAN of Ohio, Mr. KINGSTON, Mr. KLINE of Minnesota, Mr. KUHL of New York, Mr. LAHOOD, Mr. LAMBORN, Mr. LAMPSON, Mr. DANIEL E. LUNGREN of California, Mr. MCCAUL of Texas, Mr. MCINTYRE, Mrs. MCMORRIS RODGERS, Mr. MILLER of Florida, Mrs. MUSGRAVE, Mrs. MYRICK, Mr. NEUGEBAUER, Mr. POE, Mr. SALI, Mr. SHADEGG, Mr. SMITH of Texas, Mr. STEARNS, Mr. TERRY, Mr. TIAHRT, Mr. WALBERG, Mr. WELDON of Florida, Mr. WILSON of South Carolina, Mr. DAVIS of Kentucky, and Mrs. DRAKE) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs


http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:1:./temp/~c1105YG4yt::

[southerncrone]

18. WTF? Why are they voting on nonsense like this?

It's like voting to recognize the importance of beef & cattle.

This is so ridiculous. Don't tell me the Christian Right still doesn't have a hold over Congress.

Sheez. :eyes:

[Sugar Smack]

60. That's my thinking here. WTF?

"RECOGNIZE the importance of Christmas"???????????? Congress is VOTING about this? This, among countless other things, is just embarrassing.

[Recursion]

19. Kucinich voted yes...

sigh

[BuyingThyme]

22. I knew he would do something wrong eventually.

[HughMoran]

33. lol

Dems can't do anything right any more. Let's all become Republicans! Yeah!! That's a HUGH idea!! :sarcasm:

[RiverStone]

28. WTF!!!!! Explain this...????

I can't believe it - did someone serve up some spiked kool-aid on The Hill.

Just some of the text of this reads as follows:


Whereas Christians identify themselves as those who believe in the salvation from sin offered to them through the sacrifice of their savior, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and who, out of gratitude for the gift of salvation, commit themselves to living their lives in accordance with the teachings of the Holy Bible;

Whereas Christians and Christianity have contributed greatly to the development of western civilization;

Whereas the United States, being founded as a constitutional republic in the traditions of western civilization, finds much in its history that points observers back to its roots in Christianity;

Whereas on December 25 of each calendar year, American Christians observe Christmas, the holiday celebrating the birth of their savior, Jesus Christ;

Whereas for Christians, Christmas is celebrated as a recognition of God's redemption, mercy, and Grace; and...<snip>


Damn Dennis, your gonna make me dump your avatar - someone give me a rational explanation please!? :wtf:

[balantz]

38. Outrageous, like the Ron Paul thing. And I kind of like Dennis.

[frogcycle]

49. holy fundie batshit, batman!

[ixion]

21. toture, impeachment, rule of law,corruption, illegal invasions, these things apparently don't matter

:grr:

happy freakin' xmas. waterboarding for everyone! :eyes:

[Freddie Stubbs]

23. You left out the 10 who didn't have the balls to take a stand:

Conyers
Frank (MA)
Holt
Payne
Pence
Schakowsky
Schwartz
Wasserman Schultz
Welch (VT)
Yarmuth

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll1143.xml

[Cha]

27. Maybe they thought it

was too stupid to vote on..I know I would. Fucking demagogues.

[Critters2]

35. Yep. I would've voted present--or not at all.

What a waste of time.

[walldude]

68. Actually there was a reason they voted present:

"As it turns out, not everyone was impressed with King’s spiteful stunt. When the Christmas-is-important measure came up last night, nine Democrats voted against it. Moreover, 10 voted “present” — including one Republican — which is exactly how King voted on the Ramadan and Diwali resolutions."

http://www.crooksandliars.com/category/right-wing-stupidity/

[southerncrone]

24. I godda reply to this again. Would the purpose of this be to see

if any of our legislators would "vote AGAINST Christmas"?

It's so absurd, but could this be the motive? :shrug:

Something to use against candidates in the future, or are they just wasting our damn time & resources instead of offering up HELPFUL legislation for the people? :wtf:

[tom_paine]

31. You got it, grist for O'Reichley's Mill (and all the rest of the Bush Infoganda Team)

[PVnRT]

64. Bingo

That was the sole purpose of this resolution and vote.

[Pastiche423]

25. And xtrians on this board wonder why their faith is sometimes put down?

There you go, right there!

Allow me to be the first to say it...

FUCK XMAS!

[Solon]

26. All those motherfuckers who voted yes can go fuck themselves...

Fuckity fuck fuck.

[Recursion]

30. Even DK?

I personally don't mind Congress passing recognitions of this or that, though as always I worry it's a waste of money.

[Solon]

32. Yes even DK, especially DK, he should have known better. n/t

[tom_paine]

29. The FEAR behind this vote is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

:puke:

Such a cowardly bunch, at a time in history when all we need is a little courage.

Of course, all the Germans in the early 1930s needed was a little courage to stop THEIR Bushies.

Coudla woulda shoulda...that and two bucks will get you on the bus.

Thanks to the nine who were not afraid.

[RiverStone]

34. WE deserve to know where every DEM running for Pres stands on this....

Arrogant stupid bullshit!

I'm soooooooo pissed off I've run outta bad words.

This may not be the most destructive bill The House as ever voted on, but it sure is one of the most offensive I can ever remember at close to the youthful age of 50!

[Raine]

36. 9 disgusting atheistic anti-americans

shame on them, how dare they. :sarcasm: Really, I wonder how it is that some have such courage :patriot: and the rest are so cowardly that they go along with anything. :-(

[balantz]

37. This really troubles me, like the idea of a state religion.

[Critters2]

39. I wrote my congressman, much good it'll do...

Dear Mr. Weller,

As a Christian pastor, I'm irate that you and others in the House took time from things THAT MATTER to vote on a resolution declaring the Christian faith and Christmas important.

My faith is no more or less important to me or anyone else because Congress says it is. It is NOT your job to affirm my faith. If you want to demonstrate how important the Christian faith is to you, here are a few ways to do that:

Honor the Prince of Peace by ending this ridiculous war.

Take serious Jesus' admonitions to care for children by fully funding S-CHIP.

Follow Jesus' teachings to care for "the least of these" by rebuilding New Orleans' Lower Ninth Ward.

Think hard, surely you can see other needs more important than this resolution.

Mostly, though, you and Steve King and the other sponsors of this unconstitutional resolution should consider Jesus' teaching to the Pharisees that one should not trumpet ones faith on the street corner, but rather pray in private.

Oh, and Christianity doesn't need your approval. So, thanks but no thanks.

Happy Holidays,
< Rev. Critters[br />First Congregational UCC
Crittertown]

[MadBadger]

40. Did you forward that to Kucinich?

[Critters2]

41. I didn't. But I could. Just sent it to the idiot who "represents" me. nt

[MadBadger]

44. I was shocked he voted for it

After I saw that my candidate, Rush Holt didnt vote for it (voted present instead), I looked to the nay section for DK and was shocked to see he wasnt there.

[barbtries]

52. great letter

thank you. amen.

[GreenPartyVoter]

42. Sad, but not surprising

[balantz]

43. Does this give our government the "legal" right to defend

Christianity from its enemies?

[Critters2]

46. I trust they'll be handing out guns to churches now.

:scared:

[baldguy]

45. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"

[trashcanistanista]

54. Good point, is

this even legal?

[Lydia Leftcoast]

47. This is bizarre: My Congressman, Keith Ellison, famous as the first Muslim in

Congress, voted for it, as did Earl Blumenauer of Oregon, who is known to be an atheist.

Another example of the Republicans proposing some stupid statement that the Dems are afraid to oppose because they think the Republicanites will use it against them.

[Bluebear]

48. I can't believe Kucinich voted for this stinker.

His stock just fell with me, sorry.

[DavidDvorkin]

50. DeGette! Good for her!

She's my Representative. Her seat is safe, but still she must know she'll get abuse. I'll have to go to her Web site and send a message of support.

[trashcanistanista]

53. First the non objection in

the torture briefing and now this. This is getting downright scary. Not to mention a supreme embarrassment, and I hope the rest of the world does not find out about it. :wtf:

[ElboRuum]

55. More proof...

That anencephaly is no apparent hindrance to holding elected office.

[Critters2]

59. !

:spray:

That would explain Steve King!!

[defendandprotect]

56. Sure --- it's an important money-maker --- Global Warming . .. not so much!!! Keep lies going!!!

[Azathoth]

57. So does this mean the War on Christmas(TM) has officially been won?

:shrug:

[PVnRT]

61. Whoa - Mike Pence only answered "Present"?

:wtf:

[Nikki Stone1]

62. Christianity needed a Congressional vote to prove its importance?

Maybe that speaks to the decline of religion in general.

[musette_sf]

65. thank you Pete

you done good.

signed,
Your Alameda County Constituent

[musette_sf]

66. self delete

dup

[leftofthedial]

69. jesus fucking christ

on a trailer hitch

[Initech]

71. It's official: we live in bizarro world.

:scared:

[Swamp Rat]

72. If they were voting to reconize homeless and poor people it would be 9 -372.

Our government is run by idiots.

[cali]

73. There were also a bunch who voted present, including oddly enough

Mike Pence- and my rep., Peter Welch.

[Judge_Mental]

76. What an embarrassment. n/t

[yasmina27]

77. Un-frikken-believable! n/t

[yurbud]

78. Now stores will put up all kinds of Christmas crap and expect us to go shopping....

oh wait, they already do that.