The CIA and the Murder of Manadel Jamadiat at Abu Ghraib

[Solly Mack]

CIA allegedly hid evidence of detainee torture - report

"CIA interrogators apparently tried to cover up the death of an Iraqi 'ghost detainee' who died while being interrogated at Abu Ghraib prison


After some 90 minutes of interrogation by CIA officials, he died of 'blunt force injuries' and 'asphyxiation', according to the autopsy documents obtained by Time.


Photos of grinning US soldiers crouching over Jamadi's corpse were among the disturbing images that emerged from the Abu Ghraib prison scandal in 2004... the US government's policies on interrogating terrorist suspects may preclude the prosecution of CIA agents who commit abuses or even kill detainees, and said the CIA had been implicated in the death of at least four detainees.

Mark Swanner, the CIA agent who interrogated Jamadi, has not been charged with a crime and continues to work for the agency..."




Trial Starts in Abu Ghraib Death: Navy SEAL Faces Charges;CIA Agents Not Named in Case

"An alleged Iraqi insurgent, Manadel Jamadi, died under intense CIA questioning at the notorious Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad about 19 months ago. On Tuesday, the government launched the first criminal trial in the case -- but none of the CIA agents who were involved is facing charges."


Spc. Sabrina Harmon and Spc. Charles Graner pose with the dead body of Manadel Jamadi at Abu Ghraib




Sometime in November

[countryjake]

1. Here is a picture of the corpse of Manadel al-Jamadi on Nov. 3, 2003

Supposedly, the CIA was no longer "taping" their interrogations by the time this man was tortured to death. But the 2005 Court-Martial of Navy SEAL, Lt. Andrew K. Ledford, who, along with his team, faced charges in the beating and cover-up of their treatment of Manadel al-Jamadi, may have been the case which spurred the CIA to dump any and all incriminating evidence, since lawyers for those SEALs contend that Al-Jamadi died shortly after they turned him over to the CIA while he was being interrogated in Abu Ghraib prison.

Lt. Ledford was found not guilty of all charges, while the eight SEALs and one sailor who served under Ledford received administrative punishments for abusing al-Jamadi and other detainees.

[magellan]

2. That he was wrapped in plastic like that has always bothered me

So many photos of naked living Iraqis, but this dead one is wrapped in plastic. In strange places. At the same time his face shows traumatic injury and what seems a perfunctory bandage under his right eye, which is clearly blackened and bloody.

That plastic is hiding further incriminating signs of the beating and worse he suffered at the hands of his interrogators.

[Solly Mack]

3. The plastic is the empty ice bags that kept his body cold

The ice has already melted in those photos

[Solly Mack]

4. And you have to wonder if the videos and pictures of Abu Ghraib

that still have not been released contain footage of al-Jamadi's torture.

Senator Graham, regarding the Abu Ghraib pictures/videos viewed by Congress, said - "The American people have got to understand - we're talking rape and murder"

And though the government was ordered (by a Judge) countless number of times to release the remainder of the evidence - they never did.

So does that mean that evidence, that was ordered released, was destroyed?

I think it was....

Adding yet another crimes to the long list of crimes...

[countryjake]

5. I doubt that the CIA is as lax as our military has been...

and I'd be willing to bet that none of that gory stuff viewed by all of those congress people would have been any official records of CIA interrogations. Maybe the aftermath, like the pic above, but not of the CIA in action.

Just look at this one case with this poor obviously dead Iraqi...he was murdered way back in 2003, pics of his corpse were revealed in '04, not long after the original scandal of the whole Abu Ghraib mess was exposed, then the Navy was held "accountable" for "abusing" Manadel al-Jamadi in '05, despite their claims that it was CIA interrogators who actually killed him. Those ten Navy men were eventually absolved...their leader acquitted, with minimal punishments dealt the others. The CIA forwarded its investigation to the Justice Department for possible prosecution, but no charges have ever been filed against anyone at the CIA or any other "civilian" interrogation agency.

Absolutely no accountability held by anyone in just this one death. Not by the ones who captured Manadel al-Jamadi and "broke" him sufficiently to prepare him for questioning and least of all by the ones who are said to have conducted that "interrogation".

Criminal is putting it mildly.

I agree with you that the rest of those Abu Ghraib pictures and videos probably will never be seen (the ones Congress were witness to), not in our lifetimes, anyway.

[Solly Mack]

6. For a long time now the last thing I think about before sleep takes me is

holding the guilty accountable...and the first thought that greets me when I awake is...holding the guilty accountable.

I'm unable to adapt to the idea that the guilty will remain free from accountability.

Even still ...I don't think any of them will ever be held accountable.


But my core being screams out against it. Every particle that makes me me cries out in outrage.

[countryjake]

7. Know just how you feel, somebody said they had outrage PTSD...

or something like that, yesterday. Each one of us takes our outrage out and tries to accomplish something positive with it, in our own world, but those steps forward are dwarfed by even worse outrages, daily, and as they pile up higher, our healthy, productive anger can slide into useless bitterness.

I have to fight to keep myself from throwing my hands in the air and saying what does it matter. Then I have nightmares of being in Manadel al-Jamadi's place and my hand becomes a fist again.

[Solly Mack]

8. Exactly!!

"Then I have nightmares of being in Manadel al-Jamadi's place and my hand becomes a fist again."

[leftchick]

9. The prisoner died in a position known as "Palestinian hanging,"

The death of the prisoner, Manadel al-Jamadi, became known last year when the Abu Ghraib scandal broke. The U.S. military said back then that it had been ruled a homicide. But the exact circumstances of the death were not disclosed at the time.

The prisoner died in a position known as "Palestinian hanging," the documents reviewed by The AP show. It is unclear whether that position — which human rights groups condemn as torture — was approved by the Bush administration for use in CIA interrogations.

The spy agency, which faces congressional scrutiny over its detention and interrogation of terror suspects at the Baghdad prison and elsewhere, declined to comment for this story, as did the Justice Department.

Al-Jamadi was one of the CIA's "ghost" detainees at Abu Ghraib — prisoners being held secretly by the agency.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0217-09.htm

remember also the US is holding over 25,000 "alleged" insurgents in Iraq today.

:(

[Solly Mack]

10. Yep!! (25K)

...and we don't know how many are already dead ...or how many disappeared...and probably never will


Thank you, leftchick!

[Solly Mack]

11. kick