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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:37 PM
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DUers while we are fighting among ourselves over the CIA tapes Bush's NIE lies
are no longer headlines. Looks like Mission Accomplished by Bushco and MSM again.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:42 PM
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1. Get this.....Rudi's advisor said that the denying
of the fact that Iran had nuclear weapons was a hit job on President Bush. He said Bless bush he should bomb Iran anyway. Now that's the kind of guy rudi has as an advisor.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:42 PM
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2. you're correct, now the push for more sanctions are on the table
Major powers to consult again Tuesday on Iran: Rice

~snip~
In a stunning reversal, US spy agencies last week declared with "high confidence" that Iran halted a secret nuclear weapons program in 2003 in response to international pressure.

The assessment of the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) released on December 3 overturned long-held US policy assumptions that Iran is bent on obtaining nuclear weapons, regardless of international demands or sanctions.

But the United States and some key allies have insisted that they should still keep up the pressure on Iran to come clean about the full extent of its nuclear program.

"If they really are after civil nuclear power, there are many ways for them to get it," Rice said Monday.

"If, on the other hand, they're trying to preserve their options for a nuclear weapons program by allowing themselves to learn to make fissile material, then that's quite another matter."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071210/wl_mideast_afp/irannucleardiplomacyus_071210203015

Editorial: Bush distorting the facts on Iran nukes
http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/dec/10/editorial-bush-distorting-facts-iran-nukes/
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:44 PM
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4. But these stories are from today
I thought the OP said that the NIE was pushed out of the headlines...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:47 PM
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5. But is anyone discussing them on MSM TV? n/t
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:52 PM
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7. they are mentioned, but looks like most are now in agreement with *bushco
with the exception of Russia and China.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 05:14 PM
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14. So moving from a talk about the NIE to the destruction of evidence
helps Bush how?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:44 PM
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3. We should contact our reps -- and all the candidates -- to tell them we
want this issue to stay in the forefront. I agree -- we've become distracted and the NIE COVERUP is even more explosive, in my opinion.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:50 PM
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6. Yes. The NIE for me was the biggest story in months. I heard
a total of about six hours of discussion of this on the talk radio station I listen to.

Did any of the leading Democrats issue statements on this matter? It wasn't even covered on my news stations.

All I heard this morning was a couple of morons bashing Al Gore for winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:52 PM
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8. Silence. Dana silenced. GE silenced. Murdoch silenced. Viacom silenced.
Edited on Mon Dec-10-07 04:55 PM by higher class
Time-Warner silenced. Disney silenced. Pens down at WSJ, NYT, WP, WT.

This means they know they are guilty and vulnerable.
This means they are going to try everything to save themselves.

Worse than Nazi Germany. USSR, PR.

Tell us again, Geroge - who belongs in the Axis of Evil?
Tell us again, Dick - who are our enemies?
Tell us again, how will they hate us for our freedoms?

Silenced. Not exactly the same as Silent Night.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:54 PM
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9. This will disappear like all of the impeachable offenses have and will for another year
there is a grocery list of impeachable offenses that have been ignored. No dems will raise their voices on this one either.

So damned frustrating.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:55 PM
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10. I thought it might be fun to try to diagram the bush intelligence communications hierarchy.
I guess it starts with the CIA man on the ground, works its way to McClatchy News, heads back over to Harriet Miers, and takes a right at the New York Times. Well, something like that.

This is how the War on Terra Chief does business?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:58 PM
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11. WaPo’s Ignatius deems Bush’s NIE lie ‘a non-story.’
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 05:00 PM
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12. BIngo! n/t
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 05:03 PM
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13. Nutjob LTTE of the day.
From Detroit Free Press exclaiming that the 16 (liberal)intelligence depts. are all conspiring to embarrass "Team Bush".
I started ripping the paper apart. Ruined breakfast this morning. Wish I could link it.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 05:17 PM
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15. That was the main talking point in the
Edited on Mon Dec-10-07 05:31 PM by malaise
spinterviews since this broke.

Sp.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 05:21 PM
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16. Right, and the nutjobs just keep repeating
without using their brains.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 05:30 PM
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17. This is today's lead story and HUGE in the M$M.
White House Mum On Destroyed CIA Tapes
... 1,725 news articles »

Even Libby dropped his appeal to help stymie this news :rofl:

And the next round will be the announcements of investigations. This will be the news of the week.

But, destroying 2 vids should not displace the HUGE CRIME: an illegal war and hundreds of thousands of deaths because of Bush's LIES.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 05:33 PM
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18. I think they're both big stories but the tape story was dropped to remove the
one that exposes Bushco's frightening lies about Iran and nukes. I can't believe DUers are falling for it.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 08:31 PM
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19. Which is the bigger story, war crimes or telling a bogey man lie?
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