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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:31 PM
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In July of this year I demanded Pelosi step down as speaker.
I understand there were many sage and level-headed people who had various levels of contempt for my demand, because we all know, flaming moonbat liberals like me are completely out of touch with reality.

Here is the original post:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1335808
I demand Speaker Pelosi resign her speakership...immediately

She has failed horribly at understanding what the role of congress is.

She is a fine person who is mis-cast is a role that is not suited for her during these times.






Just curious, can all the wise and sagacious members of this board help me understand once again why she should remain speaker?


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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:34 PM
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1. what exactly is so fine about her?
she has done and covered up things I consider to be rather coarse and brutish.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:34 PM
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2. Hell, I agree(d). She needs to go. Especially since we found out
that Grandma Nancy knew all about the torture.

She needs to be tossed on the trashbin of history's most worthless politicians. And she needs to leave a little room for Harry.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:36 PM
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4. Amen Bro.
I wept tears of joy the day she was sworn in. Now I weep tears of sorrow at being hoodwinked, once again.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:38 PM
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6. I'm a sis. But that's cool. As long as we get rid of Grandma
Enabler and her buddy.

By the way, did we ever get any details on that 'secret' trade deal they were so damn proud of??
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:50 PM
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25. Thanks for the gender clarification
I often wonder how it is that we tend to develop a mental image of posters whom we see often. (An incorrect mental image)
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:36 PM
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39. I've been surprised a couple times lately myself. And just like you, it was
shes that I had mistaken for hes.

I wonder why we do that?
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:36 PM
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3. I have been screaming long and loud for quite sometime, myself.

K&R.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:38 PM
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5. she should remain because the caucus continues to support her
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:41 PM
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7. Oh do go on.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:58 PM
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13. You crazy!!
:loveya:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:09 PM
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19. What else would you like to know, PelosiFan?
:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:41 PM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:42 PM
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9. I finally did in October.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_elizabet_071016_nancy_2c_i_am_your_nei.htm

But, the corruption in every branch of our government is so profound, and the media is so complicit, it's hard to finger Nancy alone or even mostly. Especially when the real story here may be Jay Rockefeller, not Nancy at all.

I think I have Outrage PTSD.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:52 PM
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11. We're going to need an "Outrage PTSD" clinic around here.
;)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:58 PM
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14. Instead of complaining, we should see it as a business opportunity.
Blac
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:46 PM
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10. Remain speaker?
You durn durty leftist. Why can't you be moderate? Try it, you may like it. Life is so much easier to just suck up to the PTB and statements like your's make the rest of us uncomfortable. Moderates want life to be easy and you ain't helping!
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:56 PM
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12. 1) It hurts the party, & 2) you'd be attacking her successor--no matter who it was--within minutes.
Edited on Mon Dec-10-07 01:58 PM by Perry Logan
Happy to clear that up for you. Now focus on attacking REPUBLICANS. Go ahead--don't be scared.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:08 PM
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18. What color is my tie today?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:00 PM
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15. Actually, what you don't seem to understand
is that people were mocking your self-important hubris. You actually seem to feel that your "demand" has any meaning. It doesn't. And this is the same petulant "me, me, me. I'm right. I'm so wise" kind of post. I thought Will Pitt's response was perfect:]

"I want a pony. Right. Now".
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:01 PM
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16. did that work? (nt)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:05 PM
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17. We knew since, what, last March...
what kind of politician Pelosi was?

It's like a microcosm of the War in Iraq. Some people knew what was what right away, some people figured out pretty fast, some people still haven't pulled their heads out of their ass.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:09 PM
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20. But...Speaker Pelosi doesn't read Democratic Underground
How is she going to know about your demand that she resign?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:48 PM
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23. Myself, I emailed and snail mailed my request.
I thought that was only fair.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:18 PM
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21. How'd that work out for you?
Any other demands?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:46 PM
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22. Not very well, how about for you?
Plenty of other demands. But right now just a request for DUers to discontinue the visual analysis of their colons when it comes to Ms. Pelosi.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:51 PM
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26. I don't see you recommending anyone else....
Any ideas?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:50 PM
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24. You were wrong then; you are wrong now.
She has not thrown pointless red meat at your feet. She has, however, accomplished quite a bit.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:54 PM
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27. Yes, she has taken the people's remedy, impeachment, off the table,
she has disowned her constituents and now, it appears, she kept quiet when briefed that the United States of America was torturing people.

Quite a record.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 02:59 PM
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28. "The people's remedy" is not impeachment. It is the ballot.
"Disowned her constituents" is meaningless babble.
And you're referring to a ridiculous, unsourced hit piece.

Is this all the Democrat-haters have? Empty bombast?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 03:27 PM
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29. Our federal elections have been stolen in the last two elections.
Nancy got right on top of that. :sarcasm:

And yes, she did disown her constituents. That's a matter of public record. She said out loud that those of us who were demonstrating outside her office in the Federal Building here in San Francisco were not her constituents. Unfortunately, we are. And, no, I don't refer to anonymous, unsourced hit pieces. I was there.

And no, this isn't about hating Democrats. This is about waking up one day and having no representation at all.

Does that answer your questions?



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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 03:31 PM
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30. You were there when she was briefed on waterboarding?
Wow. You're pretty high ranking.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 03:33 PM
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31. You misread my post which was pretty clear. n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 03:37 PM
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32. More pointing out how you misread mine.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 03:41 PM
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33. Nope.
"And yes, she did disown her constituents. That's a matter of public record. She said out loud that those of us who were demonstrating outside her office in the Federal Building here in San Francisco were not her constituents. Unfortunately, we are. And, no, I don't refer to anonymous, unsourced hit pieces. I was there."

And after that demonstration, I wrote this:


http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_elizabet_071016_nancy_2c_i_am_your_nei.htm


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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 03:44 PM
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35. That's nice, but my reference to "anonymous, unsourced hit pieces" was regarding Pelosi
and Waterboarding. I addressed each of your three issues with a one-line description of each.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 03:47 PM
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36. Then you would be off in left field rebutting something I never asserted.
Edited on Mon Dec-10-07 03:48 PM by sfexpat2000
And not responding at all to my initial post on this topic. Perhaps that's what you need to do to defend your position.

"Yes, she has taken the people's remedy, impeachment, off the table,

she has disowned her constituents and now, it appears, she kept quiet when briefed that the United States of America was torturing people.

Quite a record."
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 03:48 PM
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37. You referenced Pelosi and waterboarding. That issue revolves around
an unsourced WaPo article.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 03:42 PM
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34. I can't believe Pelosi didn't take your advice!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 04:36 PM
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38. kcik
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