American Morning
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0712/10/ltm.02.htmlAired December 10, 2007 - 07:00 ET
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HARMAN: I wasn't there in 2002. I was a member of the intelligence committee but I became ranking member in early 2003. So I wasn't there at that briefing. I was briefed on interrogation matters in my first month on the job, and the briefing I received raised concerns in my mind and so I wrote a letter at that time to the CIA general counsel, who briefed mean and I expressed some concerns about what I heard, including the fact that if there were videotapes, they should not be destroyed. The letter's classified. I've ask that it be declassified, so I can't say in specific terms what I wrote, but I did hear over the weekend from a staffer that she thinks there was a response, very unsatisfactory, to my letter and I'd be eager to see if the CIA recognized then that what I said was important. They obviously ignored it in 2005.
ROBERTS: And the "New York Times" in 2005 on June the 12th quotes you as saying "if you're serious about trying to get information in advance of an attack it has to be made to work. I'm OK with it not being pretty." Did waterboarding rise to the level of torture to you or was that in the realm of "not pretty"?
HARMAN: Well, this is a very complex subject and it was all classified. I agree with John McCain, that waterboarding is torture. I think if anyone has authenticity in congress, he does and that's his view and I'm very pleased that congress is finally moving basically to ban it, and require that the army field manual, which applies only to military interrogations, applies to everything. We made a big mistake by letting the CIA have separate interrogations procedure.
The rest of her interview is about three quarters of the way down the page.