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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 04:30 PM
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Lookie lookie: George Pandora's box has been blasted open
http://news.google.com/news?ncl=1124562758&hl=en
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"It is a startling disclosure," said Senate number two leader Richard Durbin, who asked the Justice Department to investigate whether CIA officials committed obstruction of justice by discarding the tapes.

"I don't know what was on those tapes," Durbin said on the Senate floor. "It was clearly something very troubling, or they wouldn't have been destroyed."

"I don't even know if it was incriminating," he said. "But we have a right to know in America because in America everyone is held accountable, including officials at the highest level of our government."

"It's a pathetic excuse," Senator Carl Levin told reporters. "You would have to burn every document in the CIA that has the identity of an agent on it, under that theory."

Democratic Senator Ted Kennedy accused the White House of "feverishly covering up its tracks."

"No part of our government should engage in practices that are so horrific that we cannot bear to see them on tape," Kennedy said.

Human rights groups also called for an immediate probe and said the move amounted to destruction of evidence and obstruction of justice.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 04:35 PM
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1. Oooooh. They're so outraged, they might just do absolutely NOTHING!
Maybe they'll go to Nancy Pelosi and tell on Bush and Cheney.

:eyes:

More crimes. More of nothing happening to the criminals because of spineless Democratic enablers.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 04:36 PM
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2. Remember the tapes finally got Nixon
Let's hope
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 04:47 PM
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6. I understand why you say "nothing", but I'm listening to Thom Hartmann
right now, and that reporter from the WH Press Corps that he always has on his show just said the atmosphere in Washington over this CIA story is lethal! All the Dems & a number of Pubs are livid. That's the FIRST time I've ever heard her describe anything that way. There really COULD be some serious reactions to this one!
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 04:50 PM
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7. But this was out several years ago? The tapes were never given up as instructed, how come
the outrage then coming from some did not bear fruit? I don't understand, people are acting as if this is new, its not, nothing was done to them then, I don't see much happening now especially in the light of now not even having the evidence they would need to convict?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 04:57 PM
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9. It is lethal
It stinks - this is the deliberate destruction of evidence.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 04:36 PM
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3. I wonder what will happen now? What can be done after the fact? Once again, they have
broken the law, but that doesn't seem to matter anymore.:(
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 04:38 PM
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4. Well, let's get those Abu Gharib tapes out then, Mr. Durbin.
What hole did they disappear into? We need plenty of sunshine, hot and intense sunshine. Get off of your backsides, Carl and Ted.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 04:46 PM
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5. The Pentagon has them. They need to go get them.
Two destroyed tapes, along with 10 million e-mails, igonred sub peonas, obstruction of Justice is their game.

The Democratic Leadership has to stand up and say ENOUGH!

Hold the WarCrimes Administration to ACCOUNT.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 04:56 PM
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8. the bush./cheney crew are like abusive husbands
they keep on and keep on pushing and shoving until the wife has no recourse than to fight back, well we're the wife now and we're starting to fight back. This cats out of the bag and theres no way to ever get it back in. It can only go one direction from here and that is up for us and down for them.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 05:21 PM
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12. Suskind just told Wolfie that this tape scandal
is the big one since this one crosses the line. They're discussing Kennedy's description -cover up. This shit is big. They destroyed evidence that shoulkd have been given to the 9/11 Commission.

No wonder Cheney is missing.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 05:00 PM
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10. It sounds like Bush is making a move to throw Cheney under the bus..
for this one. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 05:02 PM
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11. Not sure
Wolfie discussing this on CNN.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 05:37 PM
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13. No, Senator Durbin, not everyone in America is held accountable,
and to suggest otherwise is to continue a lie that has been promoted for too long.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 05:44 PM
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14. I hope they're as motivated as they are outraged
If you're going to get some justice, keep in mind that these are super-predator criminals you're dealing with, Senators. They're not going to grin, shrug, say "You caught me, copper" and go along quietly. No, these fuckers are going to have to have their bloody fingers snapped off the levers of powers one by one (figuratively speaking). They're going to fight, bite, kick, whine, spit, cry, and mewl. You've got to have the belly for everything they're going to throw out there. And even at the end, they'll shit and piss themselves, and if you hesitate for an instant, revulsed by their utter lack of self regard, they'll scoot away. You're going to have to latch onto these fuckers like Beowulf on Grendel's arm.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:57 PM
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15. consensus
What is the consensus on these tapes? People think they show torture, but I am getting the feeling it's something else. Like Abu Zubaydah giving information about his relationship with the Saudi government which can be eternally damning to the Bushes.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:06 PM
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16. Coverup of evidence, obstruction of justice -
they violated the law and KO just said Harriett knew. The shit has hit the fan!
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