Weather people are absolutely useless

[blues90]

With all their high tech CRAP they can't predict squat , there were supposed to be thunder storms here in Los Angeles , they have been ranting about this all week but what happens , the storm just decides to go east and here my wife and I ware waiting for rain , a strom , something other than this stinking sunshime happy face bull shit and a drizzle of hope comes down an will soon dry up . I tell you I'm pissed and the weather people are as useless as a fly without wings .

And here people are trying to prdict elections with polls . well good damn luck !

[mikelgb]

1. guess we got it all here in the OC

it rained pretty hard last night

[VP505]

2. Its that

old hag Mother Nature's fault, she has a bad habit of not cooperating with the weather guessers.

[Beausoir]

3. I once heard a weatherman on the 10pm newscast say

"Well! Todays weather certainly was a surprise!!"

[Warpy]

4. It sure beats having to dig your car out of a foot of partly cloudy

which is something that has happened to me more times than I can count.

[TahitiNut]

7. Shoveling a couple of inches of partly cloudy off the drive and walk ways ....

... while recovering from a couple of TIAs sure gives one an opportunity to appreciate Nature's abundance. Exercise! Yippee-fuck.

:crazy: :dunce:

[Kingshakabobo]

10. Hey, take it easy with that shoveling stuff - pay the neighborhood kid.

[TahitiNut]

12. Well, it's easier than rigging a plow to the front of my mother's walker and sending her outside.

As long as it's around an inch or so, I take it VERY easy and just push it at a pace that maintains a healthy aerobic heart and respiration rate. For me, that's about a 25-30% increase from resting ... and is very easily attained with low effort. The trick is focusing on THAT instead of the snow or the 'progress' shoveling it. It usually takes me two or three 30-minute forays out into the arctic outdoors ... with 30-60 minutes of indoor recovery between forays for my back and heart rate. Speed is NOT my goal ... just aerobics.

[NNN0LHI]

21. I do the same thing pretty much

I have a pretty good area to shovel and when I get done I am not even breathing heavy. Take my time and enjoy the exercise and fresh air. I even stop and have a smoke about half way through it. Never break a sweat. I actually think I like it.

Don

[TahitiNut]

23. Yup. There's a "zen" to everything.

The trick is in making lemonade from any ingredients. While I make no bones about detesting snow, cold, and gray ... I will always work to focus on that which I can enjoy. I put enough effort into it to keep warm and raise my aerobic rate, but NEVER so much that it brutalizes my equanimity. When I do it, I *DO* it ... and don't regard it as something to "get through." It's like driving/commuting ... I regard the TRIP as "being there" while I'm traveling.

Long ago, the best ever guidance I got about meditation was "being in the moment." When I'm walking ... I devote my attention to WALKING (at that moment and in that place). When I'm shoveling, I devote my attention to how my body is functioning (at that moment and in that place). In that way, I nurture both my body and my spirit. The more I attain that state of mind, the better off I am.

[TahitiNut]

5. Oh, the horror of having to deal with sunshine!

As a Bay Area Californian at heart, suffering the exile called Michigan, I'm no particular fan of Lalaland ... but I'd swap places with you in a nanosecond.

:eyes:

[blues90]

11. I am from Chicago

Yes the long winters and humind summers are not always a wonder but it's weather , a change , a feeling , this sun thing gets pretty old real fast .

I didn't mind Chicago really , you get used to the cold where anything above 0 degrees is a nice day , I was used to it . I can't get used to this crap . We used to have relatively cold winters with wind but it's been the same old crap for at least 4 years straight and trust me , that is boring . People here are boring as the weather .

[dysfunctional press]

18. it's not the same old crap this year...

it's shaping up to be a snow-on-the-ground-all-winter like when we were kids.

[blues90]

19. I really miss that snow

When I was a kid in the 50's living in Chicago it snowed every year and usually by thanks giving . I did not like shoveling snow but I liked building a snow man .

[immoderate]

6. They shouldn't be turning off the rain when you really need it!

Sons of bitches!:mad:

--IMM

[panader0]

8. "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows"

Bob Dylan........

[Tesha]

17. "I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines."

"Mr. Furious" in Mystery Men.

[aquart]

9. Silliest thing I've read in ever so long.

Do we give prizes for that?

[blues90]

15. No they don't

[Liberal In Texas]

13. When I took flying lessons, the ground school instructor told us that

anything beyond a 24 hour forecast was unreliable. And even at that, you should always check on conditions just before take-off.

He also said that the 5 day forecast was a joke, but the general public seems to want it even though it was nothing short of absolute guesswork.

[spanone]

14. tell me about it, i play golf.

[kineneb]

16. best info is at NOAA site

and the bonus is getting to look at the pretty pictures.
http://www.weather.gov/

this is the west coast forcast...

[NNN0LHI]

20. Two words: Tom Skilling

Brother of Jeff Skilling of ENRON fame. He is the best there is. This boy tell you its going to rain tomorrow you had better pack an umbrella. Yep. Been listening to him forever. There is no one better.

Don

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/weather/

[flashl]

22. MUST READ: When the Army Owns the Weather

Humans have long sought to control the weather. Early people learned how to make fire and modify their micro-environments; rain dances and other rituals to alleviate droughts are part of our folklore. So news that the government is engaged in secret experiments to control the weather should come as no surprise -- especially after a long history of "cloud seeding," "atom splitting" and cloning revelations.

In fact, a vast majority of people would be shocked to learn that this orphan of the cold war is still in practice. As the U.S. and former Soviet Union spent trillions of dollars on their militaries, their commitment to mutually assured destruction led to extensive experimentation with the use of weather as a weapon. In 1977, the Saturday Review cited a CIA report hinting that the U.S. government already had the power to massively manipulate the weather for war purposes.

As the Soviet Union disintegrated, a 1993 Isvestia article suggested the U.S. might want to partner with the Russians in peddling their top-secret technology to the world. Oleg Klugin, a high-ranking KGB officer, bragged of his involvement in geophysical weapons research to a London newspaper. The grid patterns of jet chemtrails now spotted throughout the Western world are likely the application of these technologies to new military and civilian uses.

The military is not attempting to hide its long-term goals. "Weather is a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025" is a white paper that can be found on a Pentagon-sponsored website. The paper’s abstract reads: "In 2025, U.S. aerospace forces can ‘own the weather’ by capitalizing on emerging technologies and focusing development of those technologies towards fighting applications. Such a capability offers the war fighters tools to shape the battle space in ways never before possible… In the U.S., weather modification will likely become a part of national security policy with both domestic and international applications."

Wired magazine wrote about the paper and extensively quoted physicist Bernard Eastlund in its January 2000 article "Activate Cloud Shield! Zap a Twister!" The article detailed the military’s plan for "made-to-order thunderstorms" and "lightning strikes on demand."

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