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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:51 AM
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If I lied...
If I were to scream "Fire" in a crowded room and people panicked; stampeding towards the exit, bodies trip and stumble, many are hurt, a few have died. If I had lied and screamed "Fire", and people died, would you hold me responsible?

If I lied... sweet nothings of love... promises of cleanliness... trust me, trust me... and you fuck me and catch my disease... am I responsible? Can you hold me accountable?

If I lied and said it wasn't loaded... and he died... would I be to blame?

If I were to lie and maybe one million were to die... what then?

What then, America...

What then; if I were to lie... would you lie with me?

Would you say it was okay... that I didn't mean it... that I didn't know any better... that my heart was in the right place...

Would you lie with me if I could promise you riches beyond your wildest imagination... any fantasy, any dream, any vision is yours if you just lie with me...

Or just maybe, I'll use a little truth against you... what is it that shames you? Shall I expose you... shall I turn my malicious intent upon you and devour you? I will single you out from the herd... weak and alone, my prey frightened unto death.

A lie can save you... besides, it's not really a lie. It's really just an alternative view of the truth... a clarified reality... an enlightened perspective... see, it's just one little ol' mockingbird... it's only a small sin to kill it.

If I lied and people died... and you lied with me... and more people died... should humanity, history and honor hold you accountable if there be no God... yet limitless woe unto thee if there be.

How about it America...

Will you lie with me?




The Only Solution is Honesty



Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried the Chief Justice shall preside; And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

Article 2, Section 4

The President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:54 AM
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1. Wow. K&R nt
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:54 AM
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2. Isn't treason punishable by death?!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:38 AM
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9. Not necessarily
The death penalty is available for charges of treason but isn't mandatory.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:19 AM
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10. But DUH-bya likes mandates! eom
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Blashyrkh Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:56 AM
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3. I bet I can get all these right.
If I were to scream "Fire" in a crowded room and people panicked; stampeding towards the exit, bodies trip and stumble, many are hurt, a few have died. If I had lied and screamed "Fire", and people died, would you hold me responsible?

A: Yes.

If I lied... sweet nothings of love... promises of cleanliness... trust me, trust me... and you fuck me and catch my disease... am I responsible? Can you hold me accountable?

A: No

If I lied and said it wasn't loaded... and he died... would I be to blame?

A: Yes

If I were to lie and maybe one million were to die... what then?

A: Not enough information.

What then, America...

A: Oh one of those quizzes. Nevermind.

Nice post. :toast:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:58 AM
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4. Excellent post . K&R
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:59 AM
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5. Most eloquent and extraordinary post....
K&R

This one must get to the Greatest Page!

Wow


:patriot:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:08 AM
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6. Bravo! K and R
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:01 AM
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14. I join you in a "bravo" ! n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:14 AM
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7. K&R
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:16 AM
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8. Well done, Mike! recommended.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 03:22 AM
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11. Well done
k n r
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 03:26 AM
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12. k&r
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:00 AM
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13. k + r
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:04 AM
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15. Nice. K&R.
:applause:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:06 AM
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16. Great post
K & R
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 07:51 AM
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17. And If I "Lied" About My "Reasons" For Failing To Impeach?
A frenzy of false rationalizations is no better than a lie.

Nor is failing to answer the simple question: Why Does "Our Side" Get to Benefit From Ongoing Torture?

Only Impeachment Can Unite Our Once-Great Nation

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 08:37 AM
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18. Did you write this!?
That is powerful, profoundly powerful.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:22 AM
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19. ...
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:48 PM
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20. Kick
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Diamond Dave Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:26 PM
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21. WOW! I'm speechless - Really beautifully done piece of work!!
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:27 PM
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22. K & R!!
Excellent
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:57 PM
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23. Excellent!
K&R
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 03:52 PM
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24. Also, note that
the Constitution states "shall be removed from Office", not "should be removed from Office" or "can be removed from Office"

Impeachment is a constitutional obligation.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 04:16 PM
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25. Can we impeach now?
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 04:47 PM
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26. Hugo Chavez was not far off with his "I still smell sulfur here" remark at the UN
The Bible sez Satan is "the Father of Lies" (John 8:44)

You'd think the Fundies would be at the front of the line, calling for Impeachment (if not burning at the stake) of this compulsively
lying sorry-excise-for-a-president, as he is the epitome of deceitful high crimes and misdemeanors costing over a million deaths of
innocent human beings "made in the image of God" ... incapable of shame, remorse, embarrassment, self-reflection or any genuine human
emotion for that matter.

Thank you for your post ... may the hounds of Hell stalk this sob all the way to his grave.
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Dawggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 04:52 PM
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27. Wow. Just wow. Beautifully said.
I pray that this administration faces the crimes that it has perpetrated on this once great nation.
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 04:55 PM
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28. Wonderful Post!
Wonderful post! Thanks for making this statement, and for reminding us that Bush needs to be removed from office. NOW!
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:03 PM
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29. Nice work. you have a gift. nt
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:18 PM
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30. what ClayZ said big K big R n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:21 PM
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31. Our Dem leaders are lying with him
and if they persist in refusing to uphold the Constitution, I will be more than happy to work to make sure they all end up being impeached along with Bush and Cheney.

They are just as complicit.

Pelosi, Reid, Hoyer, Conyers, et al are lying too.
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:34 PM
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32. Brilliant and beautiful... thank you
INVESTIGATE IMPEACH INDICT IMPRECATE INCARCERATE :patriot:


:hi: :kick:
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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 07:02 PM
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33. Wonderful! Thank You! K&R
Edited on Thu Dec-06-07 07:02 PM by Jokerman
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 07:52 PM
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34. k&r+ some useful Congressional phone numbers
Rep. John Conyers DC office directlines, Chairman of The House Judiciary Committee where HR 799 (Impeachment of Richard B. Cheney) is pending

(202) 225-0072, (202) 225-5126

Rep. Jerrold Nadler DC office directline, a member of The House Judiciary Committe and Chairman of the Subcommittee on The Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties

(202) 225-6923

Rep. Nancy Pelosi DC office directline, Speaker of The House

(202) 225-4188

Rep. Steny Hoyer DC office directline, House Majority Leader

(202) 225-4300

Rep. Dennis Kucinich DC office directline, introduced HR 333, now HR 799 The Impeachment of Richard B. Cheney

(202) 225-5745

Toll free Congressional switchboard lines

1-800-862-5530

1-800-828-0498

1-800-614-2803

1-866-338-1015

1-866-220-0044

1-866-340-9281
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 08:13 PM
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35. DENY! Then, you never lie. nt
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 08:13 PM
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36. k&r
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 09:16 PM
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37. LIAR! He and his criminal cohort are the biggest liars ever!
Impeach them now!
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 09:28 PM
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38. Excellent post
100th Rec!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 09:44 PM
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39. Quick - copyright that - it's beautiful - song lyrics at the minimum. Our
new National Anthem. Thank you.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:35 AM
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40. Hell YES!
:kick:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:06 PM
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41. another kick
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