BREAKING: 9 Dead including gunman, 5 Injured in Omaha, Nebraska mall shooting Thread #2

[originalpckelly]

(CNN) -- A gunman killed eight people and wounded five others Wednesday at the popular Westroads Mall in Omaha, Nebraska, before apparently turning the gun on himself, police said.

"We do not believe that we have any other shooter," said Sgt. Teresa Negron.

The shooting took place at the Von Maur store inside the shopping complex, which was locked down, the Nebraska State Patrol said.

Shoppers and employees walked out of the building with their hands up. Some described hiding in clothes racks and dressing rooms after hearing the shots.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/05/mall.shooting/index.html

Thread #1 is here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2410559&mesg_id=2410559

UPDATE: Suicide note handed to police department in Omaha by a woman, CNN Headline News seems to think it is connected.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. Is it time we banned malls?

[TwilightGardener]

2. Wow--even worse than it appeared. Holy Cow.

[originalpckelly]

5. I know what you mean, this is a mall massacre.

[Frustratedlady]

3. He was wearing camo?

PTSD?

[BeHereNow]

14. Yes, he was.

My guess too is an untreated vet.
So tragic and needless.
BHN

[MNDemNY]

26. Too young 19 yo Paxil?

[originalpckelly]

27. Uh, what?

[MNDemNY]

28. Got rid of the P

[BeHereNow]

39. Another distinct possibility...

I'm willing to bet one of the two possibilities or perhaps a combination of-
PTSD vet
Un monitored psych meds.

BHN

[DS1]

4. If only Chuck Norris wasn't distracted campaigning for Huckabee

:cry:

[DemReadingDU]

6. local news says 10 dead, oops, was changed back to 9

so tragic

:(


Edit to add...this is my news in Ohio.
http://www.whiotv.com/news/14783006/detail.html

[originalpckelly]

8. It just keeps getting worse.

Oh my.

[bluestateguy]

7. No burial for the murderer

Dump the killer's corpse into the sea to be eaten by sea mammals.

[mike_c]

23. what difference would that make...?

Except to the sea creatures-- and benthic invertebrates would do the consumption, not "sea mammals."

[book_worm]

9. Too bad the guy couldn't just kill himself and leave others alone

[originalpckelly]

25. I know it's pretty fucked he had to take others out before killing himself...

but you know, if he did this, he wasn't in the right state of mind.

[MNDemNY]

30. He left a note saying he was "going out in style"

[Faygo Kid]

10. Bush is in Omaha today. Pretty big coincidence.

How often does Butthead go to Omaha? Might this be some kind of warped statement by the shooter? Not really tin foil; just heard about this and that popped into my head.

[DemReadingDU]

15. yes, here is a map

http://www.whiotv.com/news/14783006/detail.html#

map

[originalpckelly]

20. We have to wonder if this is.

Just like that nut in NH, but why a mall?

[MNDemNY]

29. Easy pickin's?

[originalpckelly]

31. True...

who knows. Weirdo shit going on here.

[eleny]

11. Interviewing a woman who works at Penny's

She helped people to safety within the store. Hard to watch her without bawling.

She said that the shooter shot a teddy bear and didn't say anything.

[kestrel91316]

17. That says volumes. If he shot a teddy bear, my guess is he's just one more

person who slipped through the cracks of our nonexistent mental health care system.

[eleny]

18. Surely

[BeHereNow]

40. Exactly- perhaps even a vet.

Knew how to shoot and was wearing camo.
SO FUCKING TRAGIC.

Happy now Bushbots?

Those tax cuts workin' for ya?

BHN

[Bitwit1234]

12. Wasn't bush just somewhere in Nebraska

was he near there. Is that where the shooter was at.

[eleny]

19. A reporter said he was covering * earlier - on the other side of town

The reporter was interviewed by phone on MSNBC a few minutes ago.

[DemReadingDU]

21. check #15

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2411059&mesg_id=2411201

[Ilsa]

13. Suicide note: "I'm going out in style." nt

[Prefer]

37. Sad that this has become what is valued in our culture

He made it like acting out a First Person Shooter video game, but in real life.

[mitchum]

16. Please, please, please don't let me die in a freakin' mall

[originalpckelly]

22. I have a feeling a lot of people are going to be thinking that at the back of their minds...

as they go shopping this year. Few people have to go to a high school, but a lot of people go to a mall to shop. Will this cause more online shopping this year? Less shopping in general?

[Catherine Vincent]

24. This is such a tragedy.

Just the other day some guy went to a mall just as it was opening, grabbed a woman that was working in one of the stores and shot and killed her, then killed himself. :(

[balantz]

32. It is too much of a coincidence

for me that shrub was a few miles away just an hour before. I wonder who this person was? I wonder if he may have been prepared to carry out something else today?

[TwilightGardener]

33. Perhaps he thought the police would be tied up?

[uppityperson]

34. Police busy guarding way for Dear Leader and unable to respond fast?

That is a thought.

[BadgerLaw2010]

35. IIRC a bank robbery was attempted in Iowa in the '04 campaign under this logic.

[balantz]

36. That's possible.

I was thinking more along the lines of this person possibly wanting to take another action today and didn't quite make it a few miles further. Or perhaps he was closer to shrub earlier and didn't get the chance to act, so stopped at the mall after he left the site where shrub had been. This may all be not the story at all, but the coincidence made me think of it.

[Prefer]

38. So you're saying we can look forward to a "God Saved President Bush" RW email?

Watch that turn out to be the spin.

[aquart]

41. Was it semi-automatic spray shooting?

Or good aim from someone trained as a sniper?