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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:41 AM
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Vermont Cops rape the 4th smendment.
Stories like this just appall me.I deal with chronic pain patients quite often as a patient advocate.
Most patients feel stigmatized for using any opioid to the point they would rather suffer unimaginable pain and reduced qualities of life.This type of behavior by police/dea has doctors afraid to prescribe any medication.This leaves people to suffer in ways we would not let our animals suffer.
I am all for holistic treatments but honestly there are too many cases that only opioids can treat.
I think we truly need a Pain Patient bill of rights.Too many needlessly suffer.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz/cops-become-drugstore-cow_b_75261.html

Most politicians support measures like so-called "prescription monitoring programs" mindlessly, figuring that if allowing the government access to medical records of scummy drug addicts will reduce their numbers, all is good.



But when state police start entering pharmacies to get full prescribing records of anyone taking a Schedule II controlled substance like Oxycontin-- as the Green Mountain Daily blog says is now happening in Vermont-- perhaps they'll wake up and smell the sickly odor of the death of the 4th Amendment. In the eyes of the police, every pain patient -- and consider that some 30 percent of the population suffers some form of chronic pain -- is junky slime.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:18 AM
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1. They'll start driving to NH, NY, CT and MA if this keeps up. NT
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:27 AM
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2. If you know a person in chronic pain
to the point they need opioids to manage it the drive alone is agony.I hope you are correct though.That not all avenues of relief will be closed.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:31 AM
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3. The bright spot is that it's not that long a drive to the border, no matter where you live.
I haven't seen a good reason for why they are doing this. Are they looking for patient prescription abuse, doctor abuse, or are they being sweeties and they'll put extra police on the street of the patients, to protect them from home invasions...that last bit was sarcastic...
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:37 AM
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4. They are doing it I feel because they cant win the "war on drugs"
So they go after legitimate uses for opioids to make themselves look good.Focus on the easy targets.I have seen examples of this time and time again.Patients cut off without notice because the doctor becomes scared when the dea or state medical comes calling.I strongly advise the patients I deal with to sign a pain contract.This is stating that the doctor can call for drug tests randomly,the patient can not obtain medication from any other sources including the ER.They are also subject to pill count.
The doctors is obligated to assure the patient the proper pain relief.These contracts protect both parties.However I have even seen with contracts in place doctors being harassed.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:45 AM
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6. I'm certain it won't keep up
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 08:45 AM by cali
We have a strong and liberal super majority in both House and Senate, and I just spoke to my House member about this. She and other reps didn't know about this, and they're scheduling a meeting to discuss legislation shutting it down. This is what comes from our having a repuke governor. I only hope that this hurts teflon Jim Douglas next year. Alas, our potential dem candidates for guv are as bland or blander than Jimmy boy.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:42 AM
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