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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:12 PM
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Australian meltdown of spectacular proportions. The world turned upside down, down under
Australia is undergoing a quiet but profound revolution, it sounds like, shaking off the sleep Bush toady John Howard induced in it. Does what's happening there have more global implications? One can only hope!

This assessment is from the blog Crooked Timber:

http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/30/the-world-turned-upside-down-down-under/


Posted by John Quiggin

Political events in Australia have been moving so fast, no one has really caught up. A week ago, Labor looked very likely to win the election (held last Saturday) and there seemed a good chance that Liberal (= pro-business right) Prime Minister John Howard would lose his own seat. Those things duly happened, and that seemed to be about as much as we could expect or hope for. Instead, there has been a meltdown of spectacular proportions on the losing side.

First, Howard’s deputy and longstanding rival Peter Costello announced, contrary to most expectations, that he would not serve as leader of the opposition and was looking to get out of politics and into business where he could make some real money. Then Mark Vaile the leader of the Liberals’ coalition partner the National (= rural sector) Party decided he should spend more time with his family.

And there was more to come. Foreign Minister and Mark Steyn fan, Alexander Downer decided he would also head for the backbench (it seems likely that he and Vaile will face a lot of trouble for a deal in which a government-established monopoly paid Saddam Hussein kickbacks, out of Iraqi Oil-for-Food money, to buy Australian wheat, right up to the day Australian forces took part in the 2003 invasion).

The last prominent conservative left standing at this point, Health Minister, Tony Abbott, announced he would run for the party leadership but withdrew when it became apparent he didn’t have the numbers. That left the Liberals with a choice between two ambitious, but largely ideology-free, political adventurers, Brendan Nelson and Malcolm Turnbull.

Turnbull, much the more able of the two, offered a complete repudiation of the culture-war policies of the Howard era, proposing ratification of the Kyoto protocol, an apology to indigenous Australians, support for repeal of the anti-union Workchoices package. He has also been a leading advocate of an Australian republic. Nelson, who ended up winning by three votes, has announced support for Kyoto, and partial support for Workchoices repeal, while opposing an apology. Even this much would have seemed unthinkable a week ago

After a thoroughly uninspiring election campaign, characterised by lots of me-too promises and fence-sitting, we have ended up with a political scene that is utterly transformed, with the previously dominant hardline right not merely out of government but a marginalised minority within the opposition. It remains to be seen whether Labor can make anything of this. No one is expecting much in the short term, but suddenly there seems to be room to move, and the prospect of several terms in office in which to do it.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:19 PM
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1. Oh if this could only happen here.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:20 PM
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2. We thought it did last November.
Let's hope this guy turns out better than Pelosi.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:27 PM
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6. Repubs seem to be better at reading the public mood than Dems
which is why they're scuttling like cockroaches to get the hell out of politics.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:23 PM
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4. 2008 is looking a lot like 2006 did. Only better.
I try not to get overly optimistic, but the early signs again seem to be strongly leaning to the Dems. Still a long way to go, but I'd much rather be in our shoes than the republicans right now.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:08 PM
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11. Just so 2009 turns out a lot better than 2007 did.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:30 PM
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8. my thoughts exactly.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:41 PM
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9. It's happening already
Have you been counting the number of Rethugs who are not running again?

They will be wiped out next year. Put that champagne on ice.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:51 PM
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10. What the hell are they thinking...quitting Congress?
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 04:51 PM by TheBorealAvenger
They can't all expect to get jobs on Fox News Channel the next spring.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 06:25 PM
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13. Fox may need a job
Howard is gone in OZ.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:12 PM
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15. So Much for Public Service, Eh?
That was never the point with these thugs.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:36 PM
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16. You underestimate how much greasy slush fund money the Bushie Criminals have
AEI, Heritage, Olin...truly a multi-billion dollar operation of lies.

They can absorb them into the Republic Party Pay Korps without breaking a sweat.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:34 PM
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19. They have jobs on Wall Street, with golden parachutes as well.
That's probably where a bunch of them will go.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:11 PM
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14. It Will
The GOP is a dead man walking, and we will see the end of it by 2010. The economic collapse will convince the diehards that they backed the wrong horse.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 11:50 AM
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20. Meanwhile, DLC Dems will fumble on, thinking they can assume the mantle
of corporate waterboy. :eyes:
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:22 PM
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3. Some industrious Aussie needs to bottle some of that whop-ass as sell it to us
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:26 PM
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5. or at least put some whoop-ass in 25 oz. cans
just like Foster's Lager.

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:29 PM
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7. Oz rules. As usual. :)
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 06:17 PM
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12. Thanks for analysis. Q: "advocate of an Australian republic"? As opposed to what?
Does this imply leaving the Commonwealth? Breaking fealty to the royals? No more House of Ush..., uh, Windsor?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:32 PM
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18. Breaking fealty to the royals, basically
Australia still recognizes Elizabeth II as Queen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia#Politics

The Commonwealth of Australia is a constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary system of government. Queen Elizabeth II is the Queen of Australia, a role that is distinct from her position as monarch of the other Commonwealth realms. The Queen is represented by the Governor-General at Federal level and by the Governors at State level. Although the Constitution gives extensive executive powers to the Governor-General, these are normally exercised only on the advice of the Prime Minister. The most notable exercise of the Governor-General's reserve powers outside the Prime Minister's direction was the dismissal of the Whitlam Government in the constitutional crisis of 1975.

A referendum to replace the constitutional monarchy with a republic failed narrowly in 1999.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 10:49 PM
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22. Thanks!
:hi: Americans risked hanging for doing that, way back when -- I think the risk has lessened now, lol!

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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:11 PM
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17. Wow! Congratulations Australia - and I hope it's contagious! n/t
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 12:02 PM
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21. I'll second that
nt
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 11:10 PM
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23. I guess the Aussies don't use black box voting!! Hooray for them.
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