Rush and Sean must be proud.

[God23]

After years of spewing hate toward the Clintons, they finally got a deranged listener to act.

This is such a tragic situation on so many levels. Innocents at risk and from this point on, people working for their candidates will be looking over their shoulders and I'm sure that many will stay at home rather than risk this sort of thing.

Send your good thoughts to the hostages and hope for a peaceful ending.

[Drunken Irishman]

1. You don't know that.

For all we know it could be a leftist demanding Clinton apologize for supporting the Iraq War, or something like that.

Sadly, there are those on the left who are just as radical and militant as those on the right. :( Hopefully that isn't the case, but I wouldn't say unequivocally that this is a right-winger.

[God23]

2. You're right, I don't know for sure...

But I feel that this is most likely the case. I just wish this thing never happened at all.

[ThomCat]

3. Oh Bull!

Yes, those of us who demand that the war be ended are just as violent as those who demand that we nuke the middle east. :eyes:

You don't really believe that do you?

[Oeditpus Rex]

12. There're wackjob extremists on all sides

But I don't think we need to form premature conclusions in any case. We're supposed to be the ones who wait until the facts are in, and at this point we know almost nothing.

[Drunken Irishman]

20. You're right.

No one knows what the fuck is going on there. It could be a reactionist, a leftist or just a crazy guy. We just don't know.

[Drunken Irishman]

16. Did I say that?

When did I say everyone demanding the end of the war are violent? Or do you believe that everyone who wants the end of the war is 100% non-militant?

Trust me, I was once a very militant person and the people I would associate with were very militant. They were also very left-wing. Believe it or not, they are out there.

[aquart]

5. Yep.

[madinmaryland]

9. You are equating the Gold Star Moms and Code Pink to Freeper

Radicals?

:wtf:

BTW, it was Ann Coulter suggesting that liberals be killed, not anyone on the left.

:grr:

[Drunken Irishman]

19. haha, yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing.

You're good!

Because, you know, I said all people who opposed the war were radicals, right? No...I just said that it's just as logical to assume someone from the left is doing this, because, believe it or not, leftists can be just as militant as Republicans. Unless you believe the left is 100% pure and there isn't an issue of militanism within this ideology. But I believe you're smart enough to know that isn't true.

[madinmaryland]

23. You are technically correct.

It could be the actions of a left wing militant, though I'm not sure what that is.

:shrug:

[Drunken Irishman]

25. It probably isn't.

And I'm not saying it is. I was just saying we shouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions.

[electprogdems]

24. can you povide an example of a liberal calling for

physical harm to a conservative on a NATIONAL MEDIA show, such as a cable news show? Not trying to start a fight, but I want to know. Thanks

[Drunken Irishman]

27. Hm, that really has nothing to do with my point.

Because, you know, I never said this was a liberal or the direct result was because of liberal hate radio.

But to suggest that liberals have never been violent, or there aren't violent, militant left-wing ideologues out there, is laughable.

Do I think it's someone on the right that did this? Probably. But I wouldn't be completely floored if this guy was a leftist, either.

[electprogdems]

29. Hey i said I wasn't trying to start a fight

my point is, and I started a thread about this earlier, it is normal and accepted in our media for the hate mongers to advocate violence against me (a liberal), my daughter (a liberal) and my husband (a liberal) in mainstream media outlets with absolutely no repercussions. I am just wondering if you had any examples of it going the other way. That's all.

[Drunken Irishman]

30. I agree.

Hate media sooner or later is going to create violence in our streets. And this very well might be the case, we don't know. But it's also possible that this isn't a right-wing nutjob.

To tell you the truth, I'm hoping it's a white, middle to upper class crazed religious Republican. Not a middle eastern leftist, because then we have to deal with all the negative bullshit toward that group, along with hearing that Hillary probably staged this event to boost her campaign. :eyes:

[DangerDave921]

31. screen name

Hey there -- doesn't your screen name have a superfluous word in it? Doesn't "Irishman" say it all? :)

[Drunken Irishman]

32. haha, good one.

You're right...I guess Drunken Irishman does make it redundant. :)

[sufrommich]

4. I hadn't thought of the effect this

may have on democratic volunteers. I'm sure Rush and Hannity and their freak show listeners are thrilled.

[judaspriestess]

6. I'm sure they are

masturbating as we speak.

[DangerDave921]

37. Ewww!!!

Now I won't be able to eat dinner!

[Cooley Hurd]

7. Let's keep conjecture on the back burner during this, okay?

:shrug:

[BushOut06]

8. This is what you get with Reich-wing hate radio

They spew their hatred continually, calling Hillary and other Democrats "traitors" and "un-American". Then they act surprised when one of their nutjob listeners acts.

[God23]

10. I'm really afraid that this is what has happened.

I doubt this is going to be a John Hinckley sort of situation. It's the most obvious catalyst for a situation like this.

[AlCzervik]

11. it may not be political at all, it could be someone who wanted attention--lots of it

on national television and holding hostages at anyones campaign office is a good way to get it.

[tularetom]

13. Sounds to me like terrism

Perhaps the perpetrator should be sent to Guantanamo and water boarded. As well as anyone who sympathizes.

[God23]

18. It is terrorism. Plain and simple. Question is, what terrorist faction

is this crazy associated with?

[ronnykmarshall]

14. So glad you clearned THAT up.

God forbid anyone might think you're a HILLARY SUPPORTER!!!

:eyes:

[God23]

21. good point. I edited the OP

That was totally unnecessary on my part.

[Bolo Boffin]

15. Ann Coulter finds an open mic to celebrate in three... two... n/t

[AllieB]

26. She'll be on with the talking heads tonight.

probably calling the hostage situation a publicity stunt. :eyes:

[Bolo Boffin]

28. On second thought, I think you're right as well

She'll say things like "Don't tease us like that!" before floating the idea that it was designed to give Hillary sympathy.

[thereismore]

17. We don't know that the terrist is against Clinton, do we? He might be against

office people in general, who knows.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

22. Know what this discussion reminds me of?

One I took part in while sitting in math class on a November day in 1963. We'd just got word that President Kennedy was shot. The teacher let us talk and speculate. Wound up with a lot of theories and some bruised feelings (one discussion was about it being because he was Catholic, and the Catholics in class took it personally), and no one was right. Then the horrible announcement came, and I walked home in the rain, crying.

I'm hoping this situation has a better outcome.

[Virginia Dare]

33. They foster the hatred and paranoia, no doubt about that...n/t

[God23]

34. They are saying they know who the guy is now and that he's being

classified as an emotionally disturbed person.

[Virginia Dare]

35. It will be interesting to see if we find out..

why he targeted Hillary Clinton's office.

[God23]

36. That seems to be the question of the day.

If he is a rabid hate speech radio fan, it's going to open a big can of worms regarding talk radio and people like Coulter.

[God23]

38. Witness who knew the guy says he was emotionally disturbed and

was into conspiracy theories.

Also just reported the guy had bought road flares at the hardware store.