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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 06:02 AM
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Jim Webb coming up on Morning Joe 6am EST
I usually can't stomach Scarborough, but I was just listening and Jim Webb is being interviewed soon.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 06:38 AM
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1. Webb & Tester assessed the situation on the ground
but Webb says let's get the diplomatic actions started NOW, this should have been pushed a long time ago.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 06:43 AM
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2. Webb: Invasion of Iraq was a strategic error
We have to get out in a careful way, so as to not destabilize the region.
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Diamond Dave Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:07 AM
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3. Ummmm, Note to Jim, ---
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 07:09 AM by Diamond Dave
Jim, the MidEast is already destabilized. How much more so would you like for it to be? The MidEast has been destablized since the end of World War I especially, look up Great Britain and 1920 Iraq. A very long time ago the Mid-East was semi-stable, look to before the "crusades".

here is more:

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/telawren.htm

British archeological scholar, adventurer, military strategist, and the writer of THE SEVEN PILLARS OF WISDOM (1927), an ambitious work, which combines a detailed account of the Arab revolt against the Turks and the author's own spiritual autobiography. T.E. Lawrence's enigmatic personality still fascinates biographers and his legend has also inspired filmmakers. T.E. Lawrence was better known in his lifetime as 'Lawrence of Arabia' because of the dashing role he had in helping Arabs against the Turks during World War I. At 31 Lawrence was an international celebrity but embittered by his country's policy he chose obscurity and died at the age of 46 after a motorcycle accident.

"I loved you, so I drew these tides of men into
my hands and wrote my will across
the sky in stars.
To earn you Freedom, the seven pillared
worthy house, that your eyes might be
shining for me.
When we came."

snip:

After World War I Lawrence accompanied the Arab delegation to the Peace Conference in Paris, first as Feisal's adjutant. He was a research fellow at Oxford and served at the invitation of Winston Churchill as a political adviser to the Middle East Department in the Colonial Office (1921-22). Charles Doughty's classic account of his 1876-78 travels in Arabia, Travels in Arabia Deserta, was reissued in 1921 with an introduction by Lawrence; the book had captured his imagination in 1911-12. Later he complained of Doughty's "inhuman arrogance" and his "unshakeable conviction of his own rightness".

At the height of his fame, Lawrence resigned disgusted from his post and enlisted the Royal Air Force under the name of John Hume Ross. When his identity was discovered, he joined the Royal Tank Corps under the name of Thomas Edward Shaw. In 1925 he returned to the Air Force as Shaw, serving in England and on a desolate R.A.F. outpost in India for ten years. In Afghanistan he worked in an engine repair depot. Supplementing his meager income, Lawrence translated the Odyssey for an American publisher - the project took four years - and wrote a book about his experiences in the R.A.F. The vivid prose version of Homer's Odyssey was a bestseller.

Lawrence left the service in 1935 and moved to Moreton, Dorsetshire. There he bought a little cottage named Clouds Hill. "I imagine leaves must feel like this after they have fallen from their tree and until they die", Lawrence wrote in a letter.


Those that do not know their history are doomed to repeat it. (or something along those lines).

Too little and too late Dear Mr. Webb.
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Diamond Dave Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:12 AM
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4. Strategic error - Massive INTENTIONAL BLUNDER! n/t
The Bush Crime Family/Mafia/Global Corporatists long ranging plan. Re-read the PNAC plans.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:22 AM
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5. which is why we can't let another CON get in the WH
full steam ahead.
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