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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:51 AM Original message |
"You must conceal the fact that you're black because the other members of your unit are in the KKK." |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. Sexual Orientation IS different from race in the same |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It is all about discrimination |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Notice I said right or wrong. |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
92. You provided rationalization for others' bigotry |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
138. It would help |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Right now there are homosexuals serving, they manage to do OK... |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. you do realize how bigoted that attitude is...right? nt. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Oh you slay me! |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Missing my point entirely |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #20 |
125. Missed my sarcasm entirely |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #125 |
128. K sorry |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Foxhole desires is the truth! |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
72. Squids are to foxholes like fish are to bicycles. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Been in my share of foxholes too n/t |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
90. All I know is that no ass is hotter than a boy in a foxhole. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Sigh |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #91 |
103. Aww. Aren't you MAN enough to take a joke? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. I will not retract a statement |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #106 |
118. My experience? A gay soldier during Reagan's outright ban. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Exactly my argument |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #122 |
131. First, I'm not attacking you. It's a debate. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. Well I have made my point and laid out the argument. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. It's an epithet. Been around for years. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Bullshit!!!!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Deleted sub-thread |
SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. I said when women USED to not be allowed onboard ships |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. What is your point? How are gays serving a problem. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. and now we have foxhole desire and ship desire. nt. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. And we know that the Navy has no historic ties to homosexual behavior. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Missing my point |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I think you have missed your point. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. See post 57 for my point n/t |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Let me help you out here |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
105. Yeah, who ever heard of gays In The Navy?? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Ahhh a classic recruiting video....Thanks k4a :) n/t |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. The "good old days" |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Yet, you draw a line with gays? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
69. I draw no such line |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
101. Oops. wrong post |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. I DIDNT SAY THAT THEY CANT CONTROL THEMSELVES |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. OK then. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. May I recommend a psychiatrist? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Someone's been watching "Navel Games" too much. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. I see |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. That is correct. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. You seem to believe that it is impossible for people to control themselves... |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I said that people are sexual creatures and can not control themselves |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
95. Nah. Good hard shag. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Tell 'em SS. nt. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Something's wrong with your computer. It appears your caps lock is stuck, along with your thinking. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I am being accused by people who dont know me |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. If the shoe fits...................... |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. If you say something bigoted, people will assume you're a bigot. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. I suggested no such thing. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. stick to your guns SS. nt. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
65. So, only straight men? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. you're getting it finally. nt. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Nope |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
75. We should ban anyone sexually attracted to each other from working together too. Animals. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Office romances probably wont get you or your buddies killed |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Actually, we should just ban war. :) |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
94. No offense, but it's clear to me that you are uneducated in the history of warfare. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. NO offense |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. I think you meant, "The Spartans had a better approach to gays in the military than US does today." |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. NO I do not think that the Spartans sexual culture would fit well in todays military |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #100 |
110. Well, you obviously are off on a tangent so I'm moving on. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Sounds good |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #111 |
116. Welcome to my ignore list. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #116 |
124. No loss here n/t |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #94 |
107. Alexander the Great? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Nahh he was a wierd one |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #24 |
126. "lose" not "loose" their minds. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. very concise. nt. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. It's different because the military says so? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. Not the real reason |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. So, are you saying we should only enlist eunuchs? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Nope and I am not going to waste space explaining my opinion for the |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. How about for the first time??? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Once again I refer you to post 57 |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I've read that, no point there. Just a rant about how no one can keep from f*cking any thing that mo |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. I was making the point as to why the policy |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Wrong, the policy IS about bigotry. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Cant hide women |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. That's the usual framing... |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. Maybe it would be a good thing |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Been a while since you were on the front line huh? |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #58 |
82. Never been in the military |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Because the women werent there |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. It isn't about sex. It's about bigotry. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I am still not seeing how my post is bigotry |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. By get rid of, do you mean ban gays and women from the service?? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
62. No! I dont even know what effing post you were reading |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I've spent the last 15 years sharing my life with a veteran of the US Navy |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. What beliefs |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Well how thoughtful of you not to ruin your friend's career. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Of course I wouldnt |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. Fine. Then let's let people be out and assigned to units accordingly. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. too complicated. nt. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Not enough people |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Well yes, it's possible that some won't recognize the sarcasm. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Yes but those are the people you see the most |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Still not a good reason. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Ok my point was less clear there |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. I understand. |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. I was the CMEO at my last command |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
93. Oh, brother |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. Sigh |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. And keep inferring everyone who disagrees with you simply can't handle |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. I dont know how you can rationalize making any of the |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. I think we're having two entirely different conversations |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. I just wanted to know what word I was using that would make |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. It seems to me that you're just picking a fight with me at this point |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. OK, You called me a bigot, there is nothing you can call me that is worse that that IMHO |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Perusing the thread, the word bigot was used more by you than anyone else |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #121 |
123. My mistake, and apologies. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:11 AM Response to Reply #84 |
127. military men don't except (sic) women because of the rotten apple of pregnancy? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #127 |
129. No that is just one factor of many... n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. OK. What does "the rotten apple of pregnancy" mean? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Because it is something |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. What about all those pregnant women who don't use it as an excuse? |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #71 |
87. Make love, not war! |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
113. Then why is this not a problem for our allies? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Good point indeed... but have you seen the British Navy lately, they need all the help they can get |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
134. I don't agree with you but I am surprised how many people are attacking you for what you didn't say. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
6. k&r with thanks. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I think that was my point. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
9. Very good point. |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
12. excellent post! |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
15. If I could've reached through the TV last night and snatched a few bald, I would have |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
49. Watching the debate |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
18. I yelled at the TV last night!! Made the exact point about |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
83. Does the military have a valid reason to segregate men from women? |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Not enough people to make a reasonable go at it. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
96. That's nothing short of institutionalized racism. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
120. K&R |
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SharkSquid (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #120 |
130. K & R |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
136. Excellent post but we cannot ignore that some Dem's are just as inclined to hide their true inner |
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