Anyone see Karl Rove on KO just now? He actually claimed that Bush

[muntrv]

was opposed to the Senate voting for the Iraqi war resolution in 2002. Karl is full of turd blossom.

[NC_Nurse]

1. That was laughable. Does he think that nobody remembers?

What a dreamer he is.

[Captain Hilts]

2. He seems to have forgotten it was a Republican Congress. nt

[HughMoran]

30. lol - I even forgot that little detail!

Does Rove think we're all fucking morons?

Don't answer that! lol

[Bolo Boffin]

35. Democrats had control of the Senate then.

That was after Jeffords had started caucusing with the Democrats.

[Captain Hilts]

39. No. The leadership was all Republican. THEY determined which bills came up to a vote and when. nt

[robinlynne]

40. They still do...

[katty]

3. His Turdy brain just keeps blossoming its spew

[Why Syzygy]

4. Could that be

because it had too many restrictions, which Bush ignored?

[deminks]

5. His insanity will become more obvious, now that he is out in the open.

This is his reason for being: bugged his own office and called in the press to blame the Dem opponent. Do irreparable harm to the country, then call in the press and blame the other branch of government. Same story, same verse. What is it called when one repeats mistakes over and over and over and over...

[hlthe2b]

9. He's not insane... He's a sociopath...

No conscience-- or at least one of supreme denial and "convenience." He is despicable, that's for sure, but not insane.

[Sam Ervin jret]

11. Socio or Psycho could be he has both pathologies - like the rest of the gang

It's the only explanation other than a group "alien body snatching" conspiracy meant to cause the FALL OF ALL HUMANITY - since that seems "unlikely", I say the group Psycho/ sociopath theory still stands.

But I keep my mind open to any new ideas and evidence.

[TomInTib]

6. He just doesn't give a damn.

It's all the same to that bastard - lies or truth, it just doesn't matter to Rove.

[OneGrassRoot]

7. What did KO say or do? n/t

[TomInTib]

8. He laid it bare.

Went and pulled pages right out of whitehouse.gov from the Autumn of '02 that, of course, directly countered what the bastard said.

[Usrename]

10. Rove was on Charlie Rose the other day.

Rove was going on about how terrible it was that the IWR was voted on just a week before the mid-term elections. Rose was very good about letting him continue down this path of argument. Rove eventually said that the Whitehouse didn't want to have the vote right before the elections, because they thought it would make the issue too political!

:rofl:

Anyhow, KO even had Arianna Huffington on to help him call Rove a big fat liar. They went to Whitehouse.gov and got quotes and press releases and such.

As the prophet George Orwell once warned us, he who controls the past controls the future. Rove has a new book that he thinks will rewrite history.

[Bozita]

16. Posters at charlierose.com blistered Charlie's ass, but good!

http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/21/1/an-hour-with-karl-rove

Comment by Richard on Tuesday, Nov 27 at 07:26 PM

Don't you just love the way these talking heads slip and slide and slither their way through the terminologies they use to deceive? "Trajectories (of figures of deaths??)" Jesus.. Unbelievable.. Makes me want to weep. How anybody can allow such a slime ball to dribble all over the truth like this is just beyond me.. To give this reincarnated Goebbels such an unchallenged platform is a complete cop out. "The Press has done a good job...??..##%" JESUS H Christ. You are a disgrace Rose.


Comment by Michael on Tuesday, Nov 27 at 07:06 PM

Mr. Rose, I have been a fan of Frontline and your show for years. I still like Frontline but can no longer count myself a fan of the Cahrlie Rose Show. I am deeply dissappointed that you allowed Karl Rove to spew lies on your media platform. You failed to challenge classic Rove propaganda. Next time I see you at the 21 Club you can be sure I will challenge you. I won't be writing another check to PBS until I see there is a correction or an apology to the faithful viewers of your show.


Comment by dras on Tuesday, Nov 27 at 02:49 PM

I to read all the comments also and saw how quite a few of them just happened to show the writers ability to cut and paste. I've watched Rose for way to many years to admit and I'm ready to tell him and PBS, which happens to be my favorite charity, that they are damn close to losing a 25 year plus supporter of PBS. I felt like I not only had my pocket picked by PBS I was also stab in the back by Charlie Rose.

more, lots more...

[Usrename]

19. Oh sure, it was infuriating to watch that show.

I was even yelling at the teevee a little, as Rose did a pretty good impersonation of Timmy Russert's non-confrontational interview style. I have thought for a long time that Rose is sort of mentally challenged anyhow, so I never expect a whole lot of intellectual horsepower from the guy.

I really don't know if knows that Rove was lying to his face or not. Not the sharpest tool, if you know what I mean, about as sharp as a marble... he really got some of fan's undies in a wad though, that's seems to be for sure, and well deserved.

I was truly glad to see that someone like KO picked up on this story. :)

[Cha]

29. Yeah, I told

someone this morning that rose is cmw and I among others was labeled a "media hater". Go fucking figure.

[Lamonte]

12. Rover

Keith Olberman displayed the true record of bush on todays Countdown asking for a Senate approval quickly. At any rate, weren't the Republicans in control then?

[Tikki]

15. You are correct...

Aloha, Lamonte....:hi: Welcome to DU...

Oh, I remember it well... on his push to war...Bush said ..."You're either with me or against me."



Tikki

[Usrename]

23. It was right before the midterm, after they had abandoned "power sharing."

The 2000 elections left a 50-50 split in the Senate, with Cheney being the tie-breaker. Daschle and Lott settled on a power-sharing arangement, with Lott being the majority leader in name only. In mid 2001, Jim Jeffords, a Republican from Vermont, left the Republican Party to be an independent and vote to organize with the Dems.

Daschle was the Majority leader, and the Dems did control the Senate.

The House was under solid Republican control.

The Senate arguably could have been lost to a fillibuster-proof majority of Republicans over this IWR vote. There were a whole lot of Dems up for reelection. Enough to put the entire country in even greater peril if the Republicans picked up all those seats.

And that scenario was a real possibility, one that Rove himself was using as a threat. Rove would have liked nothing better than to see the Dems try to delay the vote on the IWR. That close to the election, it could have been completely devastating.

[Virginian]

32. Thanks, Usrename, I had forgotten the power-sharing. n/t

[L0oniX]

13. Bawahahaha ...yea sure we believe you Carl, you fucking asscarrot

[yurbud]

26. asscarrot...that may not be an insult to those guys.

[Louis J Sheehan]

14. Rove is delusional

He says he'll be describing how the Congress forced the Administration to go to war "too early." I thought Bush was the "decider" who had absolute power when it came to police actions, etc.? If you don't like the facts ... ignore them AND make up new ones. Mustn't let one's worldview mature! -- Louis J Sheehan

[donheld]

36. Welcome to DU Louis J Sheehan

:hi:

[Rex]

17. Sure, why not. The M$M won't do anything about it.

They are too busy giving people like Karl oral sex on TV.

[baby_mouse]

18. I think he's kind of testing the world.

I think he's waiting to see how much he can get away with before someone just punches him in the face.

[Guaranteed]

34. He's fucking with people. He's like Andy Kaufman. nt

[lonestarnot]

20. Red Rover needs to put a sock in it. Go find his old pal Novakula and suck some blood.

[SammyWinstonJack]

21. He is either delusional or a Liar! I vote Liar!

[Generator]

22. Haven't you got the memo?

You can make up any version of history you want in America. Bill Clinton also was not for the war. WOW. They are all lying sacks of shit. It's a sad day when I have to mention Clinton akin to Rove isn't it? ENOUGH. Doesn't that tell you what Hillary will bring us?

[Kingofalldems]

24. Everything out of that guy's mouth is a lie.

[KAZ]

25. I didn't laugh, and I didn't cry. I will, however....

.. stick two fingers in his fucking eyes. And not in a 3 Stooges kind of way.

[Swamp Rat]

27. Cut and run stay the course war on terrorism compassionate conservatives same as it ever was

and Bushler was against the war before he was for it same as it ever was same as it ever was same as it ever was ad infinitum.........

[HughMoran]

28. I saw that. What a piece of good-for-nothing lying shit he is!

He's gonna burn in hell, he is. What a scumbag.

[momster]

31. Reality? What's That?

It's like the news stories claiming that Gore took the election to the Supremes when it was the Republicans. Whatever they want to say...the press doesn't bother to call them on it, doesn't fact-check, doesn't, in fact, do their damn jobs. Where are the good journalists who care about making the story accurate?

[krkaufman]

33. Olbermann and Arianna covered the facts fairly well. But we'll see...

... if the rest of the corporate media does the same.

Sure wish The Daily Show and Colbert were airing fresh episodes. They'd have a field day with this one.

[salin]

37. IIRC, the wingnuts (and Jr, apparently) felt a new vote wasn't

needed - that they could just use the umbrella of the early 1990s vote to attack Iraq that set off Poppies Gulf War.

In that sense I could see Jr being "against the senate voting" - not against them voting to support his war dreams, but that he felt that they should just butt out and he should be allowed to go to war without a vote at all.

Of course that logic didn't hold water - and they had to do the hard sell (full of "intelligence" lies of imminent threats and all) to the Senate.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

38. Dear Karl Rove: Go Focus Group Youself. n/t

[donkeyotay]

41. Phhhlllpppt! The aptly named Turd Blossom who summons forth shit

Infuriating. If the republi want to review the hows and whys we went to war - the blowing off the UN among others - the M$M drumbeat of the price of gas, the summer being too hot for war, the WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE EVIDENCE IN THE FORM OF A MUSHROOM CLOUD, the WHIG, the Office of Special Plans, the Republican trademark slogan of United (behind us you) Stand, the Congress being intimidated with the FBI investigation into leaks and the rushed NIE... go ahead Rover.

[Odin2005]

42. LOL, I bet he thinks we've always been at war with Eastasia too. n/t.