I Heart Huckabee: Eventual GOP Nominee

[CorpGovActivist]

I'm going out on a limb now, and saying that Huckabee will be on the GOP ticket as the Veep pick.

If I'm right, purplish/Upper Appalachian/border states are going to be much tougher for the Democratic ticket to flip.

- Dave

[annabanana]

1. He could lock in the wavering fundies for sure. . . .n/t

[CorpGovActivist]

3. He Could Be Dispatched...

... for a limited campaign swing through those states during the general election race, and be an extremely effective and formidable force.

- Dave

[skipos]

2. If you are right, Dems will have a harder time with the Jesus-rode-a-dinosaur voters. nt

[CorpGovActivist]

5. Sure Hope the Democratic Ticket...

... doesn't have any on-the-record statements in that vein.

- Dave

[JPZenger]

4. Fiscal Conservatives Attacking Him

The Club for Growth is a right wing nut that bankrolls fiscally conservative candidates. They are working hard to bad mouth Huckabee because they think he was not anti-tax enough as Governor.

[CorpGovActivist]

6. It'll Be Interesting to See How NH Treats His Candidacy...

... if he does well there, there are going to be some frantic Establishment operatives.

- Dave

[Cha]

7. What do these "anti-tax"

people expect to happen to the infra-structure when there's no money to repair roads and keep bridges strong..to name a couple of items that our tax money is used for. And what pays the fookin' politicians salaries/health bennies?

[Catshrink]

15. They'll blame it on the clenis.

It's always the dems who spend us into a huge national debt, doncha know?

:sarcasm:

[Cha]

18. So they have no

basis in reality for their idealogy?

How pathetic to be among that species.

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. Romney/Huckabee or Romney/Giuliani Those are my guesses.

[dysfunctional press]

29. guliani/huckabee might be/have been the plan- but Bootygate could change that...

i don't see romney/huckabee as even being feasible- a fundy minister isn't going to take the stage with a mormon. no way.

[zippy890]

9. "wild eyed Baptist goofball doesn't believe he is evolved from primates"

You might just be right. He's absurd enough to make the veep slot on the republican side.

http://www.alternet.org/stories/68057/

Mike Huckabee Is Not a Sane Man

"Mike Huckabee, the latest it girl of the Republican presidential race, tells a hell of a story. Let your guard down anywhere near the former Arkansas governor and he'll pod you, Body Snatchers-style -- you'll wake up drooling, your brain gone, riding a back seat on the bandwagon that suddenly has him charging toward the lead in the GOP race."

...

"But Huckabee is also something else: full-blown nuts, a Christian goofball of the highest order. He believes the Earth may be only 6,000 years old, angrily rejects the evidence that human beings evolved from "primates" and thinks America wouldn't need so much Mexican labor if we allowed every aborted fetus to grow up and enter the workforce. To top it off, Huckabee also left behind a record of ethical missteps in the swamp of Arkansas politics that make Whitewater seem like a jaywalking ticket."

~~~~~~~~~~~

Yep, just the guy to round out the ticket for the GOP. And he probably will get them more votes. Sad statement on how far off the deep end the republican party has gone.

[demnan]

10. Remember Ashcroft

He couldn't win for governor in Missouri against a dead man. Maybe some of these states aren't as crazy as you think.

Remember Jim Gilmore in Virginia. Not a ghost of a chance there. This guy can't get elected as dogcatcher.

[nightrain]

11. let's hope he is, more reason to vote Dem (nt)

[Recursion]

12. Right now he's polling above everyone else...

just a thought; if what we see is "normal" Republicans turned off by Mitt and Rudy, and if Thompson continues to play Admiral Stockdale, the evangelical support for Huckabee could be enough.

[AnnInLa]

13. I think you are right, he would balance either of those

raging libruls, Rudy or Mitt. And, he's from the South, unlike those raging, elitist Northerners, Rudy or Mitt. There would be no conservatives or RWers staying home with him on the ticket.

[CorpGovActivist]

21. He's a Troublesome Ticket Partner...

... for the Dems, I think. He speaks the language of many Southern and border state voters.

- Dave

[JPZenger]

25. In the end, VP Rarely Makes a Difference

So much strategy goes into picking the VP candidate. However, in the end, it rarely influences the outcome of the elction.

[Vickers]

28. Every person that I know that voted for Nader in 2000 did so

in part because of Lieberman.

I live in Florida. That had some big ripples.

[Patsy Stone]

14. He's been my stealth GOP candidate for months

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=315&topic_id=98182&mesg_id=98283

GMTA!

:hi:

[CorpGovActivist]

16. He Has the Cadence of a Country Preacher...

... and knows all the "cheat codes" to activate an evangelical true believer's deepest programming.

- Dave

[tomg]

17. I have been convinced it is

going to be a Huckabee/ Romney ticket for awhile, though I had Romney on the top of the ticket. Actually, it is what I am most worried about: it is not about winning but about energizing their base, particularly if the dems nominate Clinton. This is not a post against Clinton. I think whoever the dems nominate is going to win, but with that particular combination, our base ( that would be us) votes Dem - for the most part - but sits it out as far as door to door stuff. Their base literally orgasiming over the thought of a Baptist minister in the White House and defeating Clinton - kind of the fundamentalist version of sex and pizza - does go door to door. It won't change the presidential election, but it will alter the results in a few House or Senate races, maybe one or two governorships. Frankly, that configuration - a Huckabee/ Romney or Romney/ Huckabee versus Clinton - is the only thing saving the Republicans from an utter disaster - well, that or President Asshat declaring martial law, anointing himself Emperor,invading Iran, and staging his own Armageddon.

[CorpGovActivist]

20. I Think Romney Is Very Vulnerable...

... with the very groups Huckabee is strongest with; not sure Huckabee would take the Veep spot if Romney secures the nom.

- Dave

[tomg]

22. Actually, you are probably right about it

with Romney on the top of the ticket. Depends on what they offered Huckabee as far as real influence on Supreme Court nominees and a few other plums. Romney is very vulnerable, but what got me thinking about that particular ticket was the endorsement he got from the president of Bob Jones University. I can't imagine a Guiliani/Huckabee (in either order) ticket, but it would be funny as hell.

[CorpGovActivist]

23. What Is Huckabee's Bottom Line for Influence?

I suspect a few leading candidates on the GOP side are already putting out that feeler.

- Dave

[tomg]

24. Considering his stands, I would say

he would want real influence with the Supreme court appointees, with a say with the Attorney General, and, he would want clout with Health, Education and Welfare, not for the reasons most Republicans want clout there. I could be wrong about this, but that might be his minimum. I find his positions on "values" issues, absolutely anathema to everything I hold important - death penalty, guns, marriages and civil unions, "creationism." But these are things courts will have control over. He supports keeping Guantanamo open, the troop surge, and a whole host of other things I find repellent. With that said, in the area of Health, Education and Welfare, he seems to be the best of the Republicans and he has been willing to increase taxes to see that kids get health insurance, that infrastructure is developed, and some other measures which are a start. I think he could be a real danger because he seems authentic. I Could be wrong.
edit: typo

[CorpGovActivist]

26. I Think Huckabee Will See a $$$ Spike after Last Night (n/t)

[dysfunctional press]

30. i don't see a fundy minister taking up arms with a mormon...

huckabee seems to me to be positioning himself for a veep slot alongside rudy.

but Bootygate might change that quite a bit.

[CorpGovActivist]

42. Olympic Stumbles...

... have given golds to less worthy runners.

- Dave

[Poiuyt]

19. Plus Huckabee has very powerful supporters

[CorpGovActivist]

27. That Was My Pre-Debate Take...

... my post-debate take is that he may - if disciplined enough - become the nominee.

- Dave

[vireo]

31. Huckabee is pretty corrupt

If Giuliani is undone by his transgressions, will they really want to turn to this guy?
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/11/13/huckabee/

[CorpGovActivist]

38. Thanks for the Link...

... I'm sure more information like this will emerge now that he's catapulted into the national spotlight.

- Dave

[B Calm]

32. The name Huckabee sounds too hillbilly to me...

[CorpGovActivist]

34. LOL...

... my partner of nearly 14 years still gets a kick out of some of the real names on my extended family tree.

Frankly, my siblings and cousins do, too.

- Dave

[B Calm]

52. I bet he lived next door to the Goodpasture family... You think

any of his relatives are named Herbert?

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

33. Damn thick sturdy limb.

[CorpGovActivist]

35. Just to Clarify the OP: ***I*** Don't Heart Huckabee, but Thought the Eventual Nominee...

... would come around to that view and pick him as his Veep.

Post-debate this week, I've modified my view: Huckabee may become the nominee, but I still don't heart him.

- Dave

[B Calm]

36. Wow.. a relative of Clinton was raped and Huckabee freed the rapist..

And a retarded Fort Smith teenager, raped by her stepfather, who sought Medicaid funding for an abortion as federal law required. Huckabee stood in the hospital door, at least figuratively, to prevent state funding. Man this guy is a fucking nutcase!

[CorpGovActivist]

40. Thanks for the Info...

... could you provide additional information about the reporting?

Thanks!

- Dave

[B Calm]

43. Here's the Salon link that was posted above

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/11/13/huckabe... /

[B Calm]

45. The rapist after being freed moved to Missouri in 2000, where he molested and killed

one woman and was suspected of doing the same to another, but died in prison before he could be charged in the second case.

[CorpGovActivist]

47. Like Willie Horton in Reverse? (n/t)

[Blue-Jay]

37. I think Huck would be the hardest Republican to beat in the GE.

Neither Rudy nor Mitt would bring out the Christers like Huckabee.

[CorpGovActivist]

39. He Also Has Recent Access to Arkansas Archives...

... which is troublesome.

- Dave

[spooky3]

41. VA would be HARDER for GOP to pick up, depending on whom we nominate

The same fundies and wingnuts who would vote for Huckabee will never vote for a Dem., no matter who it is.

The growing population of moderates would be more inclined to vote with the progressives in the metro areas unless we nominate someone perceived to be extremely liberal or nutty. Moderates might be swayed by a more moderate Rethug, but not by Huckabee.

[CorpGovActivist]

44. V(Squared), C(Squared) = the Two Virginias + the Two Carolinas

Grab those, hold the blue state line from 2004, start measuring the White House windows for new drapes.

- Dave

[spooky3]

46. yes, that will be a tough pickup though

But if electronic voting is not manipulated this year, Ohio and Florida are in play.

[CorpGovActivist]

49. Southeast Ohio and North Florida...

... are no less difficult.

- Dave

[sniffa]

48. i think he just may take the nomination

[B Calm]

50. FOX noise channel won't like it. This will be interesting..

[sniffa]

51. i think they'll get right behind if he moves up, wins

that's their steeze.

i think the eventual nominees may stun everyone. VP picks too.

[CorpGovActivist]

53. Gary Hart (n/t)

[sniffa]

54. Geraldine Ferraro (n/t)

[CorpGovActivist]

55. Husband's Tax Returns...

... becoming an important campaign issue.

- Dave

[midnight]

56. I just listened to a brief part of a NPR interview with a reporter

from Arkansas. This reporter,can't remember his name, but he did indicate he was considered Arkansas "crazy uncle" liberal. Anyways, he was telling well known stories about this Baptist minister -known to the locals. He registered himself/wife to receive wedding gifts at stores so, he and his wife of thirty years, could receive gifts for their new home and life as a politician. Also, I got the impression that the locals are not keen on his idea of fair tax. I really don't understand that subject so I can't comment. But the jest, of the brief part that I did hear, indicates that once Huckabee is catapulted to the lime light his issues will become more known instead of his charm..... That said, the reporter was skeptical, because it took the second bush term for most Americans to glimpse some of bush's issues.