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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:08 AM
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Rape inquiry over girl jailed with 20 men
:wtf: ... :grr: .. :nuke:

Rape inquiry over girl jailed with 20 men

http://www.guardian.co.uk/brazil/story/0,,2216361,00.html

Tom Phillips in Rio de Janeiro
Saturday November 24, 2007
The Guardian

Authorities in the Brazilian Amazon came under fire this week after reports that a 16-year-old girl
had been repeatedly raped and tortured while being held in a prison cell with at least 20 men.


According to reports in the Brazilian press, the teenager was arrested last month after being caught
stealing in Abaetetuba, a town on the outskirts of Belem, the capital of the Amazon state Para.

She reportedly spent 26 days in a cell at the local police station, although no formal charges were brought.
This week the girl emerged from custody covered in bruises and cigarette burns.


The state governor, Ana Julia Carepa, ordered an inquiry following claims the teenager was locked up
with the male prisoners for at least a month and was forced to have sex in exchange for food.

Carepa told the Estado news agency there were signs that the girl had been deliberately imprisoned
in order for other prisoners to sexually exploit her.
On Thursday four policemen were suspended.
"It does not matter if she is 15, 20, 50 or 80 years old. A woman should not be held in a cell
together with men," the governor said.

The regional human rights representative of Brazil's Lawyers Association, Mary Cohen, said she
believed the girl had been subjected to "every imaginable type of physical and sexual aggression".

The revelations have unearthed other cases in which women were apparently imprisoned alongside men.

On Wednesday there were reports that a 23-year-old woman had shared a cell with about 70 men in the town
of Parauapebas, also in the state of Para.

Amnesty International's Brazil researcher, Tim Cahill, said: "We receive extensive reports of women
in detention who suffer sexual abuse, torture, substandard healthcare and inhuman conditions, showing
that this case is far from isolated but continues to be hidden from the public."


:wtf: is wrong with these GD Neanderthals!?! This is sickening!!! :grr:

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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:39 AM
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1. You know what truly sickens me about this story? Were there not ANY
men in that cell who said, "Hey, leave the kid alone! Would you want this to happen to your sister?" Not one man in the cell to even attempt to defend her? I realize that these are criminals, but does that make them all rapists and uninterested in protecting an innocent person?

And men wonder why women run the other way when they see men coming down the street.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:43 AM
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3. How do you know that none did?
No mention of how many men have been raped.

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:46 AM
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6. The article is about the GIRL and WOMEN being raped in a MEN's jail!
It wasn't a fucking statistical report on rape in Brazilian jails!

Women do NOT belong in a Men's prison!
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:52 AM
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18. Not all men are rapists!
"Women do NOT belong in a Men's prison!"


Duh


Men don't deserve to be raped either!


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:55 AM
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19. WTF are you talking about?
If you want to discuss men being raped in prison

or in general, then start your own thread about it.

When did anyone say men deserve to be raped? :crazy:

NO ONE DESERVES OR SHOULD BE RAPED!!!!!!
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 12:16 PM
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20. Can you read?
Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 12:18 PM by Mika

I was responding to a comment in post #1 - "Not one man in the cell to even attempt to defend her?".

I simply asked, 'how do we know that none did?' for which you vociferously responded.


No one should be verbally attacked for saying that men don't deserve to be raped either!


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 12:18 PM
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21. I can read just fine but apparently you can't, as it was Nay
who made a comment like that! Try again.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 01:13 PM
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24. I don't know that any men defended her or did not defend her. Certainly
none were mentioned in the news article as having tried to defend her, and that's all I have to go by. And I think it's obvious that a majority of men did not defend her, or there would have been a different outcome for that poor girl. And I agree with two persons downthread who said, respectively, 1) that there is a time to step up and put your life on the line and do what's right, and this was certainly one of those times; and 2) those so-called 'guards' need to be thrown into gen pop in supermax as their final punishment.

As far as men raping men, that's horrible too, and is a major reason I think we as a society should think TEN TIMES before we put ANYBODY in prison, esp for stupid stuff like speeding, pot, bad checks, etc. If you can't control the prison population, then at least don't toss people in there indiscriminately.

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:44 AM
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4. Not even the police gave a shit!! - So
expecting the criminals to care is moot. They're all disgusting and need to be locked up! :grr:

That poor girl and all the other women this is happening to as it seems to be standard practice there!
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:41 AM
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2. Barbarians.
I have no clue what motivates men to behave without honor & integrity just because they can. There seems to be a corruptness at the very core of homo sapien. I cannot believe that even one man would not speak out & try to protect this young girl. Shamefully tragic. My heart goes out to this young girl. She will be scarred for life.

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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:45 AM
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5. And not one of those 20
men protected her. Somebody explain to me, how in god's name anybody would tell themselves it is OK to do something like this? I'm serous. Is it the culture? Is it men? Is it mob mentality? What? I just can't get my brain around this.:cry: Sometimes I think Mother Earth just needs to shake us the shit off!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:48 AM
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8. If any did try to protect her, maybe
they were also brutalized and kept silent out of fear.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:58 AM
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12. You know, there comes a time in everyone's life
when you have to put yourself on the line -- sometimes quite literally with your life -- before you can continue to call yourself a human being. This would have been one of those times.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:00 AM
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14. Criminals are usually selfish people
We're not talking about upstanding citizens here. :(
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 12:22 PM
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22. Maybe they were raped too?
Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 12:23 PM by Mika
I was inferring that up-thread.

I just find it a shame that it is instantly assumed that no man stood up for her when we know nothing about any details in that regard.

Not all men are rapists or stand by when a rape is in progress. Men get brutally raped in prisons too.

Just sayin'.

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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:48 AM
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7. "Occupational hazard of being a thief"
Disclaimer: not my words, nor do I believe that in the least. Check the threads where those two were shot and killed allegedly robbing a neighbor's home in TX. Some here on DU would absolutely squeal with delight at this girl's rape.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:50 AM
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9. I wouldn't doubt that....
What happened in TX was unfuckingbelievable too! :grr:

I hope that guy gets life!



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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:54 AM
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10. And some people compare apples and oranges and fail with apparent delight.

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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:01 AM
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15. Game, set, match.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:05 AM
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16. Wow....
Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 11:05 AM by Breeze54


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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:11 AM
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17. What are you talking about. ?
Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 11:14 AM by aikoaiko
Thanks for proving your point?

In Texas, it is, under some conditions, permissible UNDER LAW to use lethal force to stop someone from stealing property. So yes, getting shot may be understood as an occupational hazard of thieves.

In Brazil, is it not, under any circumstance, permissible UNDER LAW to rape a girl as punishment for stealing. Getting gang raped is not an occupational hazard of stealing in Brazil -- it was rape.


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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:56 AM
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11. Cruel

Poor girl will likely suffer for the rest of her life, but perhaps some prison officials will soon find themselves on the inside of their own walls.

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:58 AM
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13. Law enforcement standards in Brazil are apparently low enough for thugs to become police officers.
When an atmosphere of impunity prevails, the police feel it's OK to do whatever they want, even break the law.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 12:47 PM
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23. Not that it could happen here.
:eyes:


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