Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

YOUTUBE BANS ANTI-WAR VID

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 12:09 PM
Original message
YOUTUBE BANS ANTI-WAR VID
After a year and 326,000 hits youtube decided to pull one of my anti-war anti-bush vids claiming that it has inappropriate content
it had 858 ratings with an average of 4 and 1/2 stars
it had close to 1100 comments - many enjoyed discussing it
and now it is deemed inappropriate
i find the war inappropriate but am being prevented from saying so
here is the vid from google
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2634489574159003641
see it while you still can
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 12:11 PM
Response to Original message
1. That's horrible
Why are they pulling it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 12:15 PM
Response to Original message
2. Odd
There are many other similar videos still up on YouTube. Seems arbitrary.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 12:20 PM
Response to Original message
3. Is it because of a copyright violation?
You're using "Welcome to the Jungle." Youtube repeatedly gets nastygrams from copyright holders -- record labels, RIAA, etc. It may or may not be considered fair use for you to put it in a video, but it's not considered fair use for YouTube/Google to broadcast it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. No - they cited "innappropriate content"
i had another vid making fun of green day and that got pulled for "violating copyright laws"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #5
17. They wouldn't like this one either I'm afraid.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #3
25. and yet, thousands of females dancing to "Baby got back"
can still be viewed ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 12:24 PM
Response to Original message
4. funny youtube does not ban porn or filthy language, but politics? oooooh no nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. theres porn on youtube?
you sure about that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. ahhh-youporn->
one of the top hits sites on the net...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 12:44 PM
Response to Original message
7. That's an excellent video, Lame...
You know, I'm getting frigging sick and tired of the fact that the Neocon scum and their hangers-on never have to support their assertions, and I'm sick and tired of those on our side who don't require that of them.

What is inappropriate? Exactly. Precisely. Anyone who claims to be part of the intelligent adult population has a duty to support their assertions or STFU! I know for a fact that supporting opinions and assertions is taught, at the very latest, at the middle school level.

No teacher that I've ever heard of would accept a student essay which says xxxx is wrong because I say so. That's not secondary school, or even middle school level, work.

Sooo......again, YouTube, what, exactly, is inappropriate about that video???? Hmmm??

Friggin' useless troglodytes shuffle through life f*cking up the planet and never have to support their decisions, because then they'd have to debate, and they can't do that. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 02:21 PM
Response to Original message
8. i was going to post this video last night
but it was pulled, so i had to use the site to post video in gd/p
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 02:29 PM
Response to Original message
10. News Corp owns YouTube....nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #10
18. Oops News Corp owns MySpace...nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 02:41 PM
Response to Original message
11. damn good vid!
thank you for sharing and i hope it remains on google.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 02:50 PM
Response to Original message
12. What a damn shame.
There is a site boomp3.com - don't know if it is "www" in front or not.

Also don't know if they post vids as well as audio files.

The thing about You Tube is the wonderful exposure a message gets when it is on there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 02:59 PM
Response to Original message
13. Nothing is happening when I click the link
:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 03:12 PM
Response to Original message
14. Google owns YouTube
Edited on Fri Nov-23-07 03:12 PM by lynyrd_skynyrd
Why would they ban it on one site but not the other?

:wtf:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. because they haven't caught on to it yet
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 03:18 PM
Response to Original message
16. luv yer vids!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 03:59 PM
Response to Original message
19. Youtube can show can a person excise his own disgusting skin BOIL, but they think anti-war vid is
BAD TASTE.

And they think "liberals' have a warped "view of reality."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 04:45 PM
Response to Original message
20. so much for freedom of the net. pitiful. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
21. so which particular content is inappropriate? did they say?
Considering the stuff that gets put on youtube regularly, it's kind of hard to see where yours went wrong. The staff should at least have the courtesy to tell you what in particular is inappropriate, or give you anonymized copies of any complaints.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 04:55 PM
Response to Original message
22. Fuck youtube.
They were only cool because they were first. Now, they spend too much time sucking up to The Man.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 05:20 PM
Response to Original message
23. Images of gore, combat violence, and corpses are explicitly prohibited on youtube.
This has been their policy for years, possibly since their establishment. Your video probably didn't accumulate enough complaints to be noticed before now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 05:36 PM
Response to Original message
24. Taking a closer look at YouTube & other's restrictions:
First, thanks to everyone who's pointed out cross-ownership -- impt. and useful info.

Second, re- just WHAT YouTube considers "appropriate," from their site, a lot depends on whether any viewer(s) happen to "flag" a video as inappropriate. It looks like almost anything can stay up if no one flags it.

Once it's flagged, they review it. YouTube's site offers the following guidelines (edited to eliminate verbiage that's irrelevant or doesn't add much):

"When a video gets flagged as inappropriate, we review the video to determine whether it violates our Terms of Use—flagged videos are not automatically taken down by the system. . . . If you find other videos on YouTube with the same violations, please flag them so we can review them as well!
"Here are some common-sense rules that will help you steer clear of trouble:
"* YouTube is not for pornography or sexually explicit content. If this describes your video, even if it's a video of yourself, don't post it on YouTube. Also, be advised that we work closely with law enforcement and we report child exploitation. Please read our Safety Tips and stay safe on YouTube.
"* Don't post videos showing bad stuff like animal abuse, drug abuse, or bomb making.
"* Graphic or gratuitous violence is not allowed. If your video shows someone getting hurt, attacked, or humiliated, don't post it.
"* YouTube is not a shock site. Don't post gross-out videos of accidents, dead bodies and similar things.
"* Respect copyright. Only upload videos that you made or that you have obtained the rights to use. This means don't upload videos you didn't make, or use content in your videos that someone else owns the copyright to, such as music tracks, snippets of copyrighted programs, or videos made by other users, without their permission. Read our Copyright Tips for more information.
"* We encourage free speech and defend everyone's right to express unpopular points of view. But we don't permit hate speech, which is content intended to attack or demean a particular gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, ethnic origin, veteran status, color, age, disability or nationality.

YouTube's Terms of Use say very little about content, mainly that you shouldn't violate others copyrights or the like or any applicable laws.

Since it looks like your images are compiled from other published sources, it seems to me that that creates a good argument that the video should not be taken down based on the content being overly pornographic, violent, upsettingly graphic and the like.

However, your video does appear to be compiled almost entirely from material owned by others; assuming you haven't obtained all the permissions, under copyright law as I understand it, you might still be eligible for the "fair use" exception -- but I have to say I can't completely blame YouTube for not wanting to stick its neck out to make that determination for you, since it's not a clear-cut determination under the law.

According to the U.S. Copyright Office, "fair use" is a use for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, and whether your use qualifies as "fair use" depends on:
1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes -- presumably your use is intended for educational purposes, or at least for purposes of news reporting and comment, although the latter are not explicitly mentioned in this factor.
2. the nature of the copyrighted work -- not sure if this helps or hurts; to my mind, it should help you.
3. amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole -- in some cases, you've basically used most or all of the work (e.g., you've appropriated the gist of the image in any given photo), as opposed to a small sample.
4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work -- could go either way. Your use might help publicize the originals, or it might reduce demand for the originals -- why pay when they can be seen for free in your video.

Personally, I think your video is a valid execise of First Amendment rights and that copyright and other law should be construed in favor of leaving it up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 06th 2024, 09:00 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC