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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:50 PM Original message |
Engineers Begin Critical “Cooling Down” of Arctic Doomsday Seed |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is such a cool thing! (so to speak) I really appreciate you posting this update. rec'd (nt) |
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al bupp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. There's a great New Yorker piece on this from sometime in Oct |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. I appreciate the link. Unfortunately, my slow dialup makes even audio files out of reach. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R. (nt) |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. Sick. How about protecting the existing crop diversity by outlawing GM crops? (n/t) |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. You think that would solve the problem? |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Saving pristine stock isn't "sick" |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. GM crops aren't going to outlawed anytime soon |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Not that simple - it's also about saving thousands and thousands of landraces and varieties |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. 'saving' them is fine. Focusing on 'archiving' them instead of reversing the destruction isn't. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. It's known as "division of labor". One groups takes care of archiving. Others are fighting GM foods. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Well, he is anti-GM. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Cheap shot. And completely beside the point, in any case. |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. If we favor this kind of apocalyptic mindset over restraining GM crops, we're screwed. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Yes, if we don't restrain GM crops, it'll be an apocalypse. |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. You're already seeing 'Roundup Resistant' crops invading and displacing natural ones. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. And? |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. And what? I've made my point. Focusing on 'cold storage' does nothing to ensure biodiversity. (n/t) |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. You're saying the roundup ready weeds got into the cold storage facility? |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Of course not. Are you serious or just trolling? (nt) |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Well if round-up weeds did not get into the cold storage facility... |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Yawn. (n/t) |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. That's what I thought. |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Yawn x2 (n/t). |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Is yawning going to protect biodiversity? |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Have a lovely day, brought to you by Monsanto Agribusiness. (n/t) |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. You have no argument, period. Preserving seed stock is a good thing no matter what. |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I do have an argument - it's that the mindset behind storing seeds is false hope. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. It's more than we would have if they weren't doing it at all. Would you prefer that NO seeds were |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. No, as I've said I object to doomsday thinking v. responsible stewardship, not to seed storage. (nt) |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. So, you don't object to seed storage, right? And seed storage is what's being done. |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. No, I've made my point. Focusing on seed storage as a means of protecting diversity is flawed. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. The thing is, it's NOT the only thing that's happening. Just because THIS group is focused on seed |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I didn't say it was 'the only thing happening' - and thank God it isn't. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Outrage without action accomplishes nothing. Until the corporate genetic privateers are defeated, |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. But alas, fascinated acceptance of Doomsday precautions without outrage accomplishes worse than that |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. Very admirable accomplishment |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Exactly - like taking a photo of a Picasso before you 'improve' it with cave paints. |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I don't understand why it has to be one or the other. Both need to be done. |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. It doesn't. But focusing on this, rather than eliminating GM crop contamination, is sick. (n/t) |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
13. Way cool ! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
16. If the purpose is to protect seeds from disasters... |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
20. I've heard of this project --very glad indeed to see it going forward. nt |
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