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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:00 PM
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DRAFT WEBB FOR PRESIDENT
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 11:01 PM by berni_mccoy
Few times in history can a person speak so eloquently, with so much clarity, that the entire Universe hums with a cosmic harmony to the truth that is spoken.

Webb demonstrated the greatest pose and statesmenship that has been absent from the leaders in our government since Bush was selected as Presidenty by the Supreme Court.

Ladies and Gentlemen, my fellow Americans, you saw true presidential material this evening in a man who has invested more in our country than most of us can imagine ever sacrificing.

I know he is not running, and he probably wouldn't want to, but neither did another great leader named George Washington. It's time again for Americans to chose someone as great a leader as James Webb.

I was so inspired by his speech that I just had to post this idea, no matter how ridiculous it may seem.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:02 PM
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1. It was a terrific speech.
But before we jump all over the Webb for President bandwagon, it might be useful to know where he stands on a lot of other issues. He's not as progressive/liberal as some of us might like.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:03 PM
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2. Tweety doesn't even think Webb is a liberal.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:11 PM
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6. He really is when it comes to the economy and other issues.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:06 PM
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3. If the Dems don't get it together in '08
I think we should push Webb to run.

Of course, half of DU would be viciously attacking him for being a "Republican".:eyes:
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:07 PM
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5. For crying out loud, look at the first two responses to the OP
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 11:08 PM by berni_mccoy
Already questioning his political position... after that speech, I think it's pretty clear where Webb stands.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:12 PM
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7. We know where he stands on Iraq but not much else.
All I'm saying is, just because a guy gives one great speech, it doesn't necessarily mean he ought to run for President. I like him so far but I'm not ready to consider drafting him until I know more about him.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:16 PM
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12. "All I'm saying is, just because a guy gives one great speech..."
"...it doesn't necessarily mean he ought to run for President."

Tell that to Obama :hi:

Seriously, though, I'm with you - DU has a tendency to prop up anyone and everyone as The Next Big Thing after a shining moment. Webb's response was about as perfect as it could've been, but let's let the guy kick some ass in the Senate for a little bit.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:18 PM
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14. Did you know he wrote his own speech?
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:06 AM
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19. If definately showed that he wrote his own speech...
particularly in matter of economic fairness. That and the war were the themes he used in his campaign last year. It was the best Democratic response yet.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:06 PM
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4. Webb was excellent.....
and he'll be supporting Wes Clark for President in '08! :patriot:

Jim Webb and Wes Clark: The Return of the Warrior/Scholar
The generation has turned. And instead I see Jim Webb, warrior/scholar of Virginia, of whom his new constituents in the Old Dominion today sport bumper stickers which read, “My Senator is Fearless.” He is the "monkey god" awakening an entirely new paradigm; a new generation and a new Democratic culture of leadership, professionalism, valor and excellence in all areas of governance and its attendant industries like press and public relations. And he is prelude to Wesley Clark.
http://quigleyblog.blogspot.com/2006/12/jim-webb-and-wes-clark-return-of.html

also read this, as it is hell of interesting!
http://www.rapidfire-silverbullets.com/2007/01/2008_candidatestoo_much_of_a_g.html

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:12 PM
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8. My problem with all scenarios (why I have limited trust)
is the so called war on terrorism. That term has been dishonestly used as a cover for a war of hegemony and an unconstitutional seizure of enumerated rights of the citizenry of this country. My trust is shallow and my mind shuts down when the term is used. Webb is fine but my trust has to unequivocally be earned.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:13 PM
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9. He was very good. Let's not jump the gun, though.
Let's give him some time- maybe even a month- to do more. :)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:13 PM
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10. That was one of the best speeches I've ever heard. nt
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yellowdogmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:15 PM
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11. I was moved by his speech
and almost said the same thing. I think I would like to see him open an exploratory comitee because I think he would add a robust progressive voice to the discussion.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:18 PM
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13. Really gave the best Democratic Response that I can remember
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 11:18 PM by mvd
He could be President someday, but like Obama, give him more time or maybe give him a V.P. nod.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:18 PM
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15. Direct, honest, authoritative and powerful.
Everything the SOTU was not. Cutting the deficeit? You have got to be shitting me! Who squandered the surplus in the first place?
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:23 PM
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16. good speech . . . but I'm stickin' with Al Gore . . . n/t
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:31 AM
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20. Gore's my choice too... but Webb sure showed he's capable tonight!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:42 PM
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17. Agreed. And Not Just His Speech, But His Entire Presence. He Seemed Like A President.
Maybe now is not his time yet, but I think someday it will be. I thought he was exactly the type of person this country needs to run it.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:03 AM
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18. Doesn't strike me as ridiculous at all
After watching him tonight, I felt the same way.

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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:56 AM
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21. Eloquence, Passion, Integrity.................The REAL DEAL
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 02:09 AM by charles t



Jim Webb reportedly tore up the speech prepared for him, and wrote his own.

He connected.

He speaks to the big issues.

One of his first actions after election was this hard-hitting op-ed on the pages of the Wall Street Journal.

Jim Webb is the antithesis of the chameleon politician who tells every audience what they want to hear. In contrast, Jim Webb tells them what they need to hear:




Class Struggle

American workers have a chance to be heard.


BY JIM WEBB

Wall Street Journal, Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:01 a.m. EST

The most important--and unfortunately the least debated--issue in politics today is our society's steady drift toward a class-based system, the likes of which we have not seen since the 19th century. America's top tier has grown infinitely richer and more removed over the past 25 years. It is not unfair to say that they are literally living in a different country. Few among them send their children to public schools; fewer still send their loved ones to fight our wars. They own most of our stocks, making the stock market an unreliable indicator of the economic health of working people. The top 1% now takes in an astounding 16% of national income, up from 8% in 1980. The tax codes protect them, just as they protect corporate America, through a vast system of loopholes........... Incestuous corporate boards regularly approve compensation packages for chief executives and others that are out of logic's range. As this newspaper has reported, the average CEO of a sizeable corporation makes more than $10 million a year, while the minimum wage for workers amounts to about $10,000 a year, and has not been raised in nearly a decade. When I graduated from college in the 1960s, the average CEO made 20 times what the average worker made. Today, that CEO makes 400 times as much...........

This ever-widening divide is too often ignored or downplayed by its beneficiaries. A sense of entitlement has set in among elites, bordering on hubris. When I raised this issue with corporate leaders during the recent political campaign, I was met repeatedly with denials, and, from some, an overt lack of concern for those who are falling behind. A troubling arrogance is in the air among the nation's most fortunate. Some shrug off large-scale economic and social dislocations as the inevitable byproducts of the "rough road of capitalism." Others claim that it's the fault of the worker or the public education system, that the average American is simply not up to the international challenge, that our education system fails us, or that our workers have become spoiled by old notions of corporate paternalism...........Still others have gone so far as to argue that these divisions are the natural results of a competitive society. Furthermore, an unspoken insinuation seems to be inundating our national debate: Certain immigrant groups have the "right genetics" and thus are natural entrants to the "overclass," while others, as well as those who come from stock that has been here for 200 years and have not made it to the top, simply don't possess the necessary attributes.

Most Americans reject such notions. But the true challenge is for everyone to understand that the current economic divisions in society are harmful to our future. It should be the first order of business for the new Congress to begin addressing these divisions, and to work to bring true fairness back to economic life. Workers already understand this, as they see stagnant wages and disappearing jobs..........America's elites need to understand this reality in terms of their own self-interest........

The politics of the Karl Rove era were designed to distract and divide the very people who would ordinarily be rebelling against the deterioration of their way of life. Working Americans have been repeatedly seduced at the polls by emotional issues such as the predictable mantra of "God, guns, gays, abortion and the flag" while their way of life shifted ineluctably beneath their feet. But this election cycle showed an electorate that intends to hold government leaders accountable for allowing every American a fair opportunity to succeed......... With this new Congress, and heading into an important presidential election in 2008, American workers have a chance to be heard in ways that have eluded them for more than a decade. Nothing is more important for the health of our society than to grant them the validity of their concerns. And our government leaders have no greater duty than to confront the growing unfairness in this age of globalization.



complete article at http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009246






Jim Webb is no one-issue Senator.

He sees the big picture.

He clarifies, rather than obfuscates.

He inspires through his integrity.

America has been yearning for a Jim Webb.






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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 02:02 AM
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22. He's my favorite new Senator!
Hah! I even gave him a big campaign donation, and I don't live in Virginia, I like him so much.

His speech tonight was inspired, and inspiring.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 06:16 AM
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23. I second the sentiment, it was a great speech,
but for 2008 I want to DRAFT GORE!
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 06:28 AM
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24. All for it ... the minute he says "impeachment"
Had he ended his speech not with "show him the way" but rather "show him the door," he might have been the front runner by Presidents Day.

But unless and until he does -- and soon, my guess is that this was his high water mark.

You can't sell them short. They get to everyone eventually. They'll have him "sounding like a senator" in no time.

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 06:36 AM
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25. I would get behind that. The man delivered the response that we've all been looking for for years
A blunt but eloquent speech taking the president to task for gross failures at home and abroad. Hell, he even kicked around corporate America, something that is generally forbidden in this corporate controlled D.C.

I would work my ass off, and donate my last cent to this man if he ran for president. Let's hope he does.
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