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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 03:56 PM Original message |
Write a post about something like the rape victim in Saudi Arabia, and invariably |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Agreed |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
64. I just read the new story about this about a half hour ago |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. She's not getting those lashes for being a rape victim |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It could also be that she's a prostitute. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Yeah, the thought crossed my mind, too |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. The woman has no rights outside of her relation to the males, sadly. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. ding ding ding... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. There's also a brisk trade in "holiday wives." You probably know about them as well. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. oh yes |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
79. In Bahrain |
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Tektonik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I think I love you |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well, that kind of stuff comes from the "glass half empty" perspective. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. And here I was giving you credit for not harping on Iran again |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. It's not a gotcha game. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. The issue at hand is a thread you posted |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Actually, no. This thread is about cultural relativism |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Haven't heard about "cultural relativism" since my Penecostal preacher |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. Right on. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. It's to your credit that |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. "No comparison"? Bullshit. There are many very VALID points of comparison. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Well, you certainly didn't make the case, now did you, dickie? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. It's possible |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. indeed. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
49. There seem to be |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Yes... emotion is at hand |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I have a close friend |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. There is nothing I like more in life... |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. But childish name-calling adds sooo much to YOUR argument, right? What are you, FIVE? |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I would say your arguments |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Wrong. And why the hostility? |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. It's very simple. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. or merely disagrees with you. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. I respond honestly to disingenuousness... |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Umm antfarm... maybe you want to read some of my posts |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
67. And your point is? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #67 |
76. I have politely engaged you. Your rudeness is beyond the pale |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. You have clearly misinterpreted both my point and Cali's INTENT, and thus appear foolish. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. What laws on the books in the US |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Show me where he said there were laws on the books |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Then what is he comparing? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I was trying to find the post of a few days ago re: women in prison |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. There is no comparison between lax and shoddy |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Did someone say it was exactly the same thing? |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. They infer it |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. So since they haven't done it, they NEVER EVER will? |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. No, and the sun may not come up tomorrow either |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Lots of things could happen |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
65. I will go on record right now |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:54 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Well I say your wrong, some have and do and will. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #70 |
83. I answered another poster in a slightly more detailed way |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:06 AM Response to Reply #65 |
74. Oh please- some of them are on record as supporting EXACTLY such laws already. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #74 |
82. It's not the same thing.... |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #34 |
68. That was exactly my point, I don't think I said it as well as you, I talk to long sometimes |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. A justice system that treats women like chattel... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Our justice system devalues the poor- men and women. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Excuse me, Cali... The point is a cautionary warning for the US |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. I remember many years ago |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Yes... Perspective is a marvelous thing... |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. That's the gist of this silliness. Comparing the struggles |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:58 AM Response to Reply #62 |
73. Well oppressed women still exist in a democratic country like it or not. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Yeah, but I don't bring up Islam everytime someone bitches about Christians |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. Hmm. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
30. Seems to me their force of their law exists... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. sheesh, talk about Ameriocentric. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. How do you think Wahhabiism got so much power in the first place? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. It was the dominant form of Islam in that region |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Guess again. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:58 AM Response to Reply #51 |
72. They Won It Fair And Square, Sir, At The Point Of Knife And Gun |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
45. I hear ya, cali! I've had similar responses many times, as if the U.S. had a patent on wrongdoing... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
46. We have made a lot of progress here |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
54. You wrote "Saudi America" - Freudian slip? |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #54 |
81. "Saudi America" |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
58. Way to misinterpret |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:45 AM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Thank you, I have a feeling this was directed at me on her first thread about the subject. |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:57 AM Response to Reply #58 |
71. Beautifully stated |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
60. Agreed. There is no comparison and |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
61. No doubt SA's human rights record is SHIT. But, denying our own errors is wrong. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. So who's denying our own failures ? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. lol. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:06 AM Response to Reply #66 |
75. I really don't see the humor cali, are you female? The fact that you made another thread |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:42 AM Response to Original message |
77. Fundamentalists of any stripe are dangerous and can ultimately lead to such a society |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
78. are we being correct. it wasnt for rape. it was for being with nonfamily men |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
80. Even sadder |
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