cspan3: Official House Oversight Committee - Inspector General hearing thread # 2

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Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Official House Oversight Committee - Inspector General hearing thread I
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2279503#2279503
2279503, Official House Oversight Committee - Inspector General hearing thread I
Posted by marmar on Wed Nov-14-07 10:07 AM

There seem to be three separate threads going on. Unity, DU! Unity! .... We on the left are always such a factionalized people. :)

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1. tune in. Repugs are after waxman

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2. k

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3. k

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4. k

[bobthedrummer]

5. Neonazi Issa to Waxman "Where's your beef?"

[marmar]

Thanks for starting the deuce....

No. 1 has lost its legs. :)

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7. yup. give it a REC please

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8. Krongard Recuses Himself from Blackwater Investigations (Brother Is On Blackwater Board)

Wed Nov-14-07 12:17 PM
Original message
Krongard Recuses Himself from Blackwater Investigations (Brother Is On Blackwater Board)
Source: TPM Muckraker

Krongard Recuses Himself from Blackwater Investigations
By Spencer Ackerman - November 14, 2007, 12:48PM

Howard "Cookie" Krongard said he's just learned that his brother is on Blackwater's advisory board and has formally recused himself from investigating the company.

Rep. Patrick Lynch (D-MA) asked when Krongard learned his brother, A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard was on Blackwater's board. Krongard said that he just learned about his brother's position, and had a single phone conversation with him in early October -- "about five, six weeks ago" -- in which Buzzy told Cookie that he didn't have "a significant financial interest" in Blackwater. Blackwater has multi-million contracts with the State Department.

Company spokeswoman Anne Tyrrell told me the advisory board was formed in the summer. I'm still trying to learn the exact date Buzzy joined up, but that would be before Buzzy's phone conversation with his brother. Cookie Krongard told Rep. Lynch that his brother didn't mention taking a position on the advisory board, although Buzzy "may have said" that Blackwater approached him about one. "I am not my brother's keeper," Cookie Krongard said.

Update: (Beginning of hearing), he said that his brother had told him that he wasn't on Blackwater's advisory board.

Read more: http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004706.php

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6. Link to cspan3 Here

http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan3_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[L. Coyote]

12. Also, streaming from the Committee here

http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1620

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9. oh for heavens sake. A repug just offered K. a gift ticket so he can see Bush

[nashville_brook]

14. that was Issa -- weird moment for sure.

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18. thanks, i was only listening (not watching)

[gkhouston]

29. good Lord. Is this the Oversight Committee

or the Overlook Committee? :eyes:

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42. That exchange was bizarre!! Last week Virgina Foxx cooed up to Condi

in the same manner

[bobthedrummer]

10. Don't forget that Elizabeth Cheney was in the State Dept and did set-up

a Middle East investment "fund" among other things-Daddy's girl

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39. I recall she was there but only for short time.

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11. Shays is dissing Waxman again

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13. Wash post: House GOP Report Defends State Dept. Official

Forum Name Latest Breaking News
Topic subject House GOP Report Defends State Dept. Official

Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3065803#3065803 
3065803, House GOP  Report Defends State Dept. Official 
Posted by rodeodance on Wed Nov-14-07 10:47 AM

Source: Wpost


House GOP Report Defends State Dept. Official

By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer 
Wednesday, November 14, 2007; Page A04 

A report produced by the Republican staff of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee concludes that while State Department Inspector General Howard J. Krongard has "an extraordinarily abusive management style," charges that Krongard thwarted investigations into Iraq and was motivated by political bias cannot be supported by the evidence collected. 

The 117-page report by the minority staff, prepared for a hearing today into Krongard's leadership of the IG's office, is an unusually tough broadside against the tactics of Committee Chairman Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.). The report contends that Waxman jumped the gun by accusing Krongard in a Sept. 18 letter of a long list of failings before, Republicans charged, the committee had conducted a thorough investigation. 
 

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15. NEEDS a few RECS please.

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16. Shays "I wonder why anyone would want to work in the gov't"

paraphasing this jackass.

Maybe you should answer your own question .

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17. Shays is excusing K. --State is a big dept to run -so much to do and gov workers

are lazy (paraphase).

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19. Was that a bribe we just witnessed LIVE from Rep Issa?

Coincidentally, I had just posted on thread I "Rep. Issa is the Bushco waterboy again. Send him another bribe?? 11:42 AM"
And, within a minute or so, Issa offers him a ticket to the White House and a photo with Bush
(Like, that's a desirable thing :rofl: )
to pay him for his efforts here today?? He earned it, said Issa! OMG!

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20. OH boy-WAXMAN is PISSED at SHAYS

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yelling at Shays telling him the Repugs did NOT request other dept

members to show up.

ha ha

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21. yelling at Shays telling him the Repugs did NOT request other dept

members to show up.

ha ha

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23. ha ha---waxman is telling shays the RULES. also says NO one complained prior to the meeting but now

shays does at every opportunity to complain

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24. ha ha---waxman is telling shays the RULES. also says NO one complained prior to the meeting but now

shays does at every opportunity to complain

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Repugs came to meeting to disrupt -not to find out information!!

[nashville_brook]

22. shays has been counting coup all day -- time for waxman to fight back

[marmar]

25. Christopher Shays, Petulant Child-CT

He's really beginning to get on my nerves.

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44. at each meeting I hear him-he seems to grow more BITTER>

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26. k&r

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[L. Coyote]

27. Davis is playing the distraction game, to move away from the real issues.

[bobthedrummer]

28. Cummings up

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30. whoa! e cummings is hitting a homerun.

[marmar]

31. Elijah Cummings, in a very nice euphemistic way, just told him he's "full of shit"

n/t

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33. he still is saying he is sack of shit

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41. "you don't have to look so surprised"

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32. Ha, the Dem saying he could believe K ONLY IF both all 12 whistleblowers

wrong plus testimony from justice is wrong.

whao whwo whwo

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38. Hahahhaha

He's the only one right - everyone else is wrong.

[bobthedrummer]

34. Cummings just restated the truth

Indict this criminal already

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35. this K. guy is slicker than ol Gonzo!

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36. K. did come to meeting today with attitude that he was RIGHT about everything

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37. "i just don't believe everybody is wrong and you are right..."

[marmar]

40. "I just don't believe that everyone else is wrong and you're the only one who's right."

Elijah rocks!

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43. K has a very big head!!

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45. TPM is all over this today, with VIDEO of key moments and several articles

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/

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50. thanks

[Blaze Diem]

67. TPM is YOUTUBE-ing and will be a great source for keeping this out in the public

Everyone should know this crap.
Not like we didn't suspect it all along, its just that FINALLY we a catching a glimpse of it all through these public hearings.

[L. Coyote]

76. VIDEOS: House Oversight Hearing with State Department Inspector General Howard Krongard

All the links in one spot:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2281267

No doubt, TPM will add more soon!

[madokie]

46. cromgard is close to perjuring himself if he hasn't

[bobthedrummer]

47. K : "There are e-mails in here that I'm embarassed to see in print..."

Indict this criminal

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48. walk this jerk to a big bog!

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49. "E-mail is a terrible thing" The Honorable Howard J. Krongard, Inspector General, U.S. DoS

Why, because the truth outs?

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51. "Email's a terrible thing"

I was right the other people were wrong..

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52. WHOW HO----Waxman saying YOUR judgement is NOT always better than your staff.

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54. ha ha. Kronys head is sagging.

[bobthedrummer]

53. Waxman: "You have a critical role for the State Department"

[MiniMe]

55. Waxman is raking him over the coals

[madokie]

56. Waxman is something else, so smart so brave.

I would like to see him in the oval office more so all the time or evertime I see him.

[marmar]

57. The Best and Brightest of the Bottom of the Barrel: The Bush Administration in a nutshell....

n/t

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59. This guy has to be a Bush crony

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66. His brother was appointed Exec. Dir of CIA in 2001. INDEED!

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58. LOOKY here:--what the MINORITY repugs did today!

topic
Forum Name Latest Breaking News
Topic subject House GOP Report Defends State Dept. Official

Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3065803#3065803 
3065803, House GOP  Report Defends State Dept. Official 
Posted by rodeodance on Wed Nov-14-07 10:47 AM

Source: Wpost


House GOP Report Defends State Dept. Official

By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer 
Wednesday, November 14, 2007; Page A04 

A report produced by the Republican staff of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee concludes that while State Department Inspector General Howard J. Krongard has "an extraordinarily abusive management style," charges that Krongard thwarted investigations into Iraq and was motivated by political bias cannot be supported by the evidence collected. 

The 117-page report by the minority staff, prepared for a hearing today into Krongard's leadership of the IG's office, is an unusually tough broadside against the tactics of Committee Chairman Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.). The report contends that Waxman jumped the gun by accusing Krongard in a Sept. 18 letter of a long list of failings before, Republicans charged, the committee had conducted a thorough investigation. 


The report asserts that, other than Krongard's poor management skills, 10 of the 11 charges raised in the Waxman letter turned out to be wrong, misplaced or overstated. 

"These issues were aired publicly with highly charged attacks against the IG for which there was no evidence, other than the unsupported allegations of current and former employees," the minority report says. It says that the "expenditure of time and taxpayer funds proving that the State Department IG is abrasive and abusive is itself an abuse of the Committee's authority." 


Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/13/AR2007111302121.html  

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60. Waxman:"Why didn't you provide the State Department with your e-mails?"

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62. this is amazing! there's more here than meets the eye.

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72. just a cronie defending himself!!

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63. Swear out a warrant and arrest this criminal-asap

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He demeans his staff. and now he disses them in public.

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68. He demeans his staff. and now he disses them in public.

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61. Waxman trying to tell him to keep it down cause it might affect other investigations.

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65. email that the committee doesn't have -- why not? hmmmmm...

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64. boy, there was hard feelings between him and his staff prior to this--now think

of the cold ice that will prevail

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69. "Incompetance"--says Waxman over and over.

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70. whow Shays is protecting K again. Waxman is upset and says let the facts

speak for themselves.

and he adjouned

[bobthedrummer]

71. live mics

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73. Well, well, going out with considerable flair and some fireworks.

Almost a shouting match. Waxman commands a lot of respect.

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77. yes, he does. putting up with dickhead shays dissing him all day!

[L. Coyote]

74. TPM has been all over this today, posting videos already, articles, comments

TOPICS: Iraq Corruption = http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/cats/iraq/iraq_corruption/

[Captain Hilts]

75. Thanks for the play-by-play folks. nt