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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:12 PM
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Vote Republican
Maybe then the Democrats will finally get the message that they either act like an opposition party or they're fired.

I say support the Democratic contender for president, whoever it happens to be that wins the primary. That way a Republican congress will be forced to compromise since the Democratic president has the power of veto. But vote those DINOs in congress out.

There is no point in having a person with a "D" next to their name who supports torture, or allows spying, or is in favor of more war in the middle east, or allows religious zealots sit on the supreme court. May as well have an "R" there. Maybe then the Democrats will wake up and stop taking their base for granted. At least that's my last ditch theory on how to end this nightmare of having enabling, spineless, traitorous, corporately owned fascists in control of the Democratic party. (Also known as: The DLC).

Sorry but I'm at my wits end.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:15 PM
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1. Nope, I'd rather run people against anyone who deserves an ousting in the Primaries.
Peace
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:34 PM
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25. Agreed. Find candidate to run against dem, and not one picked by Rahm Emanuel
who put up centrists and forced liberals and or progressives
out of the running
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:15 PM
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2. Sounds ridiculous, but
the fact of the matter is that the Democratic Party would be a lot better off had they not taken the majority in 2006. Well, not in consideration of the current leadership, anyways.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:16 PM
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3. I've alerted on this.
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 05:19 PM by Richardo
Kind of against the whole point of this website.

Plus:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:17 PM
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6. Hey, elected Dems are voting Republican.
Why cross the Party?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:20 PM
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11. I feel so much safer with Richardo on the job
Did Skinner give you a little badge?

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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:21 PM
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13. I don need no steenken badge
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 05:23 PM by Richardo
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:23 PM
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15. You're welcome for the slow pitch
;)
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:17 PM
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4. And we'll be locking in 5-4-3-2...
I agree with the sentiment, but we need another way besides electing rethugs.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:17 PM
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5. even with the current dems being more than disappointing...
id rather shoot myself in the face.


right in the face.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:17 PM
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7. I'd rather eat my babies..no way in hell do I want a repuke to cross
my threshold...NEVER IN MY LIFETIME!
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muse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:17 PM
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8. NO! When republicans rule, we have NO say.
When Democrats are in office, you have the opportunity to be heard. They might not LISTEN, but you can be heard, and heard and heard.

My Democratic club has gotten the attention of our Congressman. We are not happy. He knows it. We will keep pressure. He will change, or we will not block walk for him in the hot summer.

If we had a republican in charge, he wouldnt give a shit.

Dont give up. Get fired up. Respectfully. And forcefully.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:18 PM
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9. What sense does that make?
Except to give the Republicans another chance to destroy things further. We need change, not games.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:19 PM
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10. i understand your frustration but your plan sucks.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:20 PM
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12. Vote your class
that is what you have to do

This means no republicans... but there are other parties, or members of the democratic party who are good for your class's ends

You need to change how you think about this... but lesser of two evilism is not the way to go

I am personally done with just voing a party straight down the line just becasue they have a letter behind them

We know some of our Dems are not progressives... and could care less about us
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:23 PM
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14. While you're at it, set the dog on fire to kill the fleas nt
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:24 PM
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17. They HATE that.
Bill Murray, Ghostbusters.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:24 PM
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16. After this thread is locked, we DO need to have a WTF do we do now discussion
Voting Rethug is not the answer, but it seems that blindly voting Dem hasn't worked that well for us.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:25 PM
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19. It is clear that our party leadership thinks we are the enemy.
That's a problem that I don't quite know what to do about.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:32 PM
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23. Also they think we're retarded.
The talking points they put out are simply insulting. Pelosi's from one of the most highly-educated districts in the country and she talks to us like we're three years old. :grr:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:35 PM
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26. I think they may be right about that part.
In general, we are pretty much retarded.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:29 PM
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21. I've never blindly voted dem
I vote Progressive quite often on the state level. I've long voted for bernie, and I voted repuke when I voted for Jeezum Jim.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:24 PM
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18. I can't.
You might as well have asked me to vote NSDAP in '32.

I understand how you feel. I feel the same way. I can't vote for the right half of the duopoly.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:26 PM
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20. no.
Understand the frustration, but no.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:29 PM
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22. The plan is flawed.
I agree that voting for a Dino is rather pointless and I wouldn't do it...


HOWEVER, you should vote for a 3rd party before voting republican. If the democrat is to lose, let it be because 10% of the votes they took for granted went to a 3rd party option.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:32 PM
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24. Wrong message. Voting 3rd party might get their attention but I don't think we can afford to.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:39 PM
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27. Dobbs has a movement to register as Independents to force the
parties to pay attention to We The People.

And it's a good threat against Pelosi's no impeachment.

What's the matter with a third party? And if they came up with
a good candidate I will vote for em. I'm hoping either
Kucinich or Edwards will go on the Independent ballot...or
Gore.

We only have one party right now.  the repubocrats
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