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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:31 PM
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Dems Surrender on Torture: "Lets Be Clear-Dems Threw Away Vote They Would Have Won" (Brent Budowsky)
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 01:35 PM by kpete
November 9, 2007
Democrats Surrender on Torture (Brent Budowsky)
@ 11:26 am
Mr. Smith has left Washington and Mr. Orwell has arrived.

First, let’s be crystal-clear about how the Democrats threw a vote they would have won on Michael Mukasey and torture and let’s be clear about why this happened.

Others and I were privately advocating a filibuster against Mukasey’s attorney general confirmation bid, and would have needed 41 votes to prevail. At a minimum the filibuster could have forced Bush to accept a waterboarding and torture ban as a condition of confirmation.

Democrats had 40 votes against confirmation last night plus the four presidential candidates who did not vote. Democrats had 43 or 44 “no” votes adding the presidential candidates and, had these senators had the conviction to filibuster, would have won.

As of Thursday morning the vote would have been taken next week with some talk of delay until December. Once it became apparent that there were 43 to 44 “no” votes if the presidential candidates were present, with the weekend coming to increase pressure, the vote was jammed through late at night, a week ahead of schedule.

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Mr. Smith has left Washington, George Orwell has arrived, and 70 percent of the nation must now consider what to do, with Washington in such overwhelming disrepute directed at both sides of the aisle.

more at:
http://pundits.thehill.com/2007/11/09/democrats-surrender-on-torture-joe-lieberman-attacks-democrats-for/
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:23 PM
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1. the dems suffer from a bad case of the "what ifs..."
what if we don't approve Mr. I don't know if it's torture? then moron* will put in someone worse!!!

so worse than abu gonzalez? worse the mr. I-think it's-torture,-but-it's-not??

the only being worse would be satan himself. And last time I checked he has bigger fish to fry the white house.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:26 PM
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2. "the vote was jammed through late at night, a week ahead of schedule"
There are differing accounts of this... I read a poster elsewhere claim that Reid informed the candidates that the vote was being rescheduled.

:shrug:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:11 PM
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