if impeachment fails=> to the hague?

[mopinko]

is it not the case that for a charge to be brought at the hague, the courts of first jurisdiction must have already failed to punish the crime? that is maybe not the right jargon there, but is that not the principle? so, impeachment hearings, even if they fail, would be establishing a record upon which the international court could build a case for war crimes?

[MadMaddie]

1. Yes...Milosivich was prosecuted by the Hague....

and the * Cabal can be prosecute by the Hague...

[mopinko]

2. but there are limits to juristicition

especially since * knew that he was headed there at some point, and refused to sign on.

[madokie]

3. I think so too

bushco* would like you to believe they won't and can't because of some action they've taken but I say the crooks don't get to decide the fate of the crook, in this case the crook is the whole bush/cheney* cabal. If I don't croak first I will see these despots dragged off to the Hague and ICC

[kelligesq]

4. Took about 50 years to get Pinochet but

I really believe that R B and C will be charged with crimes
against humanity and go to the Hague or perhaps Germany sooner
or later.  It may not be till pappy passes on - but it will be
sooner or later.

[tekisui]

5. We can wait as long as it takes.

One day we will be cheering in the street.

[KharmaTrain]

6. Watch The Foreign Courts

Look at how Rummy won't be going back to Paris any time in the near future. Impeachment has zero to do with war crimes...and shouldn't have any bearing. The crimes this regime has committted against humanity is well beyond what an American court (especially one politicized by this regime) can handle.

The process has begun in the foreign courts where "executive privilidge" and immunity aren't honored...and where those who were victims of war crimes (rendition) can press forward with cases and compell evidence and testimony.

I suspect that Conyers will push for a retroactive impeachment once this regime is gone and they're no longer able to stonewall investigations. But, again, this is political...no criminal charges are part of these impeachment charges. This ball will be in the U.N.'s court and I suspect we'll see some payback against the booosh cabal similar to what happened to Pinochet.

[burrowowl]

7. And if Impeachment doesn't fail

to the Hague, IMMEDIATELY!

[JDPriestly]

8. How do you define "fail" with regard to impeachment.

Impeachment is a process to find out whether allegations of criminal behavior by the party being impeached warrant trying that party. Impeachment cannot "fail." If the process of impeachment reveals that no crime was committed or that the party being impeached did not commit the crime, the impeachment is still a success because it allows the determination that the allegations were false and no trial is necessary. If any process would bring the American people together, it would be an impeachment trial. It would allow the facts to be determined. Bush and Cheney would not be able to hide the facts behind the executive privilege.